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Yet another useless thread.. when this old fart is gonna be pinked tbh ?
It should be noted that despite the parallels people try to draw, Parker was almost two full years younger than Murray is now when he came into the league. Comparing 19-year-old Tony to 21-year-old Murray has problems, but then so does comparing Tony who had been playing pro ball for three years to a Murray who was still in college.
Yet another useless thread.. when this old fart is gonna be pinked tbh ?
I agree it's a useless thread fwiw
This was my same thought. Why are they comparing a rookie TP to a 2nd yr Murray? Comparing sop re stats in a vacuum isn’t good either. The rosters and the league rules/style of play gives totally different opportunities to TP and Murray.got OP continues to be the worst poster in the forum
Let's compare their sop re seasons when the year ends.
Parker 2002-2003 (20 years old)
15.5ppg, 2.6rpg, 5.3apg, 46.4FG%, 33.7 3P%
Good question. This is the last year on his contact. If they have to keep him, I hope it's at a steep discount to his current $15,000,000 salary.
U then would have to compare to Murray's this year... Parker was forced into the starting role... Played the full season as the starter... Murray had a very sporadic rookie season in terms of playing time... Even though he was more gifted than a rookie Parker, Pop isn't as willing to take chances as he was when he was young... So u have to compare their first full season as a starter... Not sure how this is difficult for you to understand... You're killing me Smalls!
Let's compare their sop re seasons when the year ends.
Parker 2002-2003 (20 years old)
15.5ppg, 2.6rpg, 5.3apg, 46.4FG%, 33.7 3P%
Parker scraped tha outta an aging Gary Payton in round 1 too.
I'll wait until Murray does something similar.
This.
The Spurs in that era could barely get the ball up the court, Terry Porter was so freaking old. Kobe was demolishing them in the full court.Parker almost immediately had some of the tightest handles on the league and fixed the problem immediately. Murray is sloppy and looks like guys will pick up his habits and that high dribble.
Also Parker came in shooting threes before they pulled him off and started working on his mid-game instead. That was also a much stronger defensive era. Right now PGs rule. I can imagine him getting unleashed into this league right now
That same Payton shut him down vs the Lakers in 04...how quickly we forget
Parker couldn't shoot twos nor threes.... Taking them doesn't mean u can shoot them... And he definitely wasn't a confident shooter
From other thread, he became a good then great midrange shooter pretty steadily.
Great? No... Kawhi is a great midrange shooter... Nash was a great midrange shooter... Parker was never on that level... He did become a good midrange shooter that occasionally got hot
Whatever. He was a major midrange threat.
Yea he definitely was.
TP Regular season from 16 feet or more- .413% Playoffs .408%
Kawhi Regular season from 16 feet or more- .441% Playoffs .403%
Nash Regular Season from 16 feet or more- .484% Playoffs .431%
Shooting over 40% from 3 is considered to be great, I'm not sure why mid-range isn't according to duncan2k5 . Especially when mid-range you're more or likely pulling up off the dribble vs catching/shooting a 3. Trying to downplay just how good he was at it.
Fair to say Kawhi/TP were/are both great mid-range shooters. Neither were on the level of Nash or Dirk. Doesn't mean they weren't great at it.
Me and u have very different definitions for "great"... Parker was never a great midrange shooter... Lol he was good... Not great... Curious... Who would u consider to be a good midrange shooter? Imo someone like gay is a good midrange shooter without looking at the stats... And I even trust gay to knock down a jumper before I trust Parker... But hey... My standards are different... In your standard, Parker is on the level of nash
I literally said Kawhi/TP weren't on the level of Nash...... You choose to ignore that?
& I'm just curious why you consider Kawhi great and not TP considering they aren't too far apart #s wise
If Pop was coaching Murray remotely close to the way he coached young TP, he'd run in tears to his daddy LeBron.
Pop usually chews out the least talented players.
Phils only adjustment was crying like a to the point where Tony couldn't get a call to save his life even after be continually hammered.
Lolololol Payton on Parker was the least of our concerns
face Malone was stripping Duncan, pulling the chair, owning him even worse. And that's nothing compared to their overall team defense on Pops schemes
Murry is no where near as fast as Parker. And Parker didn’t get blocked at the rim like Murray or give careless turnovers. His main weakness was shooting, but he became a good mid range shooter.
I appreciate rooting for Murray. I hope he gets better. But he’s not on Parker’s level. He wasn’t good enough to start last year and TBH, he shouldn’t be starting this year based on the last two games.
But there you are talking about skills, not about physical attributes, tbh.
His speed was elite. Murray is long, but he can’t use his length because his skills suck. If he had Parker’s speed, he’d be a one man fast break.
Not really TBH. The Lakers got a free pass to play dirty after Phil ed about the refs after the first two games. The Lakers then clogged the paint and forced Parker and the rest of the Spurs to shoot jumpers.
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