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    Lma is still inefficient. He still takes the worst shots possible. If he wants the ball with kawhi on the court he better get better post position.

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    I think they'll find a synergy and play better together than ever before.

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    Think about that, the game starts with Murray/Green/Leonard/Aldridge/Gasol, first subs utions are Parker in for Murray and Gay for Gasol. The starters get it off to a good start and then it drops into a lower gear with Gay and Parker coming in and the Spurs pull away.

    Of course that is assuming Parker is 100%. If he accepts a Manu type role and becomes the leader of the second unit, good times.
    The Murray, Green, Kawhi, Gay, LMA lineup against GS.... Gonna be fun as to watch

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    I think they'll find a synergy and play better together than ever before.

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    Yes I agree. i think they will be fine.
    not worried.
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    Kawhi can do it all, including play off the ball. Both are underrated passers IMO and will probably have to do more of that.

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    Lmao... Didnt we see that vs golden state? And many years in Portland? LA isn't big time bro... I dont trust him to come up big in big games... Maybe in October vs the bulls and the raptors of the world... But he folded like napkins vs the big boys
    Can't hold the GSW series against LA. That team went 16-1 and railroaded the Cavs.

    Losing Leonard was a shock to the whole Spurs team.

    I'm willing to leave 2017 in the past, and judge him on this new leaf (IE post talk w/ Popovich this summer).
    But I will say I remember Aldridge absolutely creaming the Rockets in game 6 while Leonard was sidelined.

    Personally I don't care about either players role, but I think you gotta keep this winning thing going... especially if the Spurs start out 7-0 before that GS game.

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    It can work. And Kawhi needs to develop his last frontier as a player, that is being a team facilitator. It is difficult to judge from the outside, but I would be interested to know how Kawhi gels and builds chemistry with his teammates. I only watched two games in the regular season and one thing LMA seems to have is good chemistry with the young players and the role players (Green, Anderson, Murray in particular). There is that connection happening and they play for each other and get the best of each other too. Clearly TD was brilliant at that (engaging his players). In other words, if you are the main cog, it is up to you to make it work. So, it will be about LMA as much as it will be about Kawhi maturing as a true leader. LMA seems to be a challenging personality type and very difficult to manage. He comes across as a bit of a passive aggressive type that it is difficult to read and needs to be taken for chats all the time to get his mind out and adjusted. Parker will be the hardest though. The SPURS current version on court appears a faster more athletic unit that moves the ball. Parker's style will need to adjust to this as opposed to the team adjust to him. It will be tricky.
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    There is still a lot of posting up in this offense. To give you an example in the last game, Dijon and Manu posted up, Kyle posted up. Rudy and LMA posted up... there's just a lot more off the ball movement, cutting and setting off screens. The hi-lo made a comback as well as the lob passes to enter the ball into the post but close to the rim, etc. I can picture Danny and Dijon losing touches more than LMA.

    P.S Rudy is a superior post up choice and will help the bench so much. He should take touches from lauvergne who was running the bench offense from the big spot and not doing a good job of it frankly. Joff will need to recognize that Rudy is so much better and deserves touches.
    Yes! to this...

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    It can work. And Kawhi needs to develop his last frontier as a player, that is being a team facilitator. It is difficult to judge from the outside, but I would be interested to know how Kawhi gels and builds chemistry with his teammates. I only watched two games in the regular season and one thing LMA seems to have is good chemistry with the young players and the role players (Green, Anderson, Murray in particular). There is that connection happening and they play for each other and get the best of each other too. Clearly TD was brilliant at that (engaging his players). In other words, if you are the main cog, it is up to you to make it work. So, it will be about LMA as much as it will be about Kawhi maturing as a true leader. LMA seems to be a challenging personality type and very difficult to manage. He comes across as a bit of a passive aggressive type that it is difficult to read and needs to be taken for chats all the time to get his mind out and adjusted. Parker will be the hardest though. The SPURS current version on court appears a faster more athletic unit that moves the ball. Parker's style will need to adjust to this as opposed to the team adjust to him. It will be tricky.
    that really is the next step in the evolution of kawhi. if he can be more of a facilitator or learn how to pass the ball more efficiently, he will definitely be MVP caliber (even if that means a drop in his PPG).

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    Kawhi and LMA pick and rolls and pick and pops are have to be something that Pop uses more going forward.

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    Kawhiso is better than LMA iso post-ups. But it's not better than an inside-out offense like the Spurs keep acting like they want to run.
    This is what will benefit everyone. When the offense runs inside-out LMA gets his touches, Kawhi doesn't have to work so hard to beat the defense stacked against him and Danny won't fade into the woodwork.

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    LOL. Kawhi's game had us dominating the Warriors in game 1. Kawhi doesn't have to change for scrubby players. He can work on being a facilitator to take his game up another level, but until these scrubs the Spurs have show something, he shouldn't be catering to them.

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    Kawhiso is better than LMA iso post-ups. But it's not better than an inside-out offense like the Spurs keep acting like they want to run.
    To play inside-out a team needs good to great shooters. Patty cant find his stroke, people call Danny icy-hot for a reason, DJ can't shoot, Kyle isn't exactly a 3-point shooter...

    This team is still an iso and mid-j team, they didn't sign a penetration guard or a 3-point specialist...There is no change on the roster that would make a change on the offense.

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    I think they're getting away from the iso heavy game and bringing back more motion so when kawhi comes back I don't think it's going to change anything that Aldridge is doing now.

    LMA has 20 FGAs a game now...I love how people talk about Kawhi's iso offense and heavy usage % but LMA had more isos and 31% usage in the first 4 games than Kawhi last season.

    If this doesn't change and LMA is the Spurs player with most shots and usage...I doubt they'll be "able to challenge for the crown"

    Leonard should take the backseat until it's proven that LA can't continue to do what we've seen through four games.
    Nobody in his right mind would say that an MVP candidate in his prime should take a backseat.

    Leonard can be that unstoppable beast on defense, and have the O flow through Aldridge predominately
    Can't believe there are still guys that think LMA's a reliable #1 option after his playoffs performances in Portland and San Antonio. Blazers never passed 2nd round and the Spurs couldn't win a single game in GSW series.

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    LOL, people asking a top 3 player in the NBA to defer to a top 30 NBA player on his own team. Brilliant stuff here.

    If LMA was at least a top 10 player, then I might consider playing inside out as I prefer playing that way compared to a perimeter ISO game, but unfortunately he's not. Kawhi shouldn't have to yield to anyone on this current team at all.
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    LOL, people asking a top 3 player in the NBA to defer to a top 30 player on his own team. Brilliant stuff here.

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    that really is the next step in the evolution of kawhi. if he can be more of a facilitator or learn how to pass the ball more efficiently, he will definitely be MVP caliber (even if that means a drop in his PPG).
    No no no, Giannis is gonna win it because he's a "freak". That's more important.

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    LMA has 20 FGAs a game now...I love how people talk about Kawhi's iso offense and heavy usage % but LMA had more isos and 31% usage in the first 4 games than Kawhi last season.

    Can't believe there are still guys that think LMA's a reliable #1 option after his playoffs performances in Portland and San Antonio. Blazers never passed 2nd round and the Spurs couldn't win a single game in GSW series.
    Aldridge's usage rate is out of necessity, with Leonard and Parker out. Obviously, it will drop when they return.

    His playoff performance was strong in '16. Naturally, after playing and shooting at an unsustainable (for him) pace the previous few months and especially 2 games, he experienced regression to the mean in games 3-6 of the WCSF, the same way Green did in the '12 WCF, when a bunch of idiots labeled him a choker. When should Trail Blazers have advanced past the WCSF? That team overachieved or at the very least maxed out just getting to that point.

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    Aldridge's usage rate is out of necessity, with Leonard and Parker out. Obviously, it will drop when they return.
    I wonder if that would make him "happy". He would whinny until he gets his lovely 20 FGAs again.

    he experienced regression to the mean in games 3-6 of the WCSF, the same way Green did in the '12 WCF, when a bunch of idiots labeled him a choker.
    For the same reason I dont want someone like LMA nor icy-hot Danny as #1 option.
    LMA was an experienced player in 2015 against Grizz, in 2016 against OKC too. If he can have just one or two good games in a series he's not a reliable #1 option.

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    For the same reason I dont want someone like LMA nor icy-hot Danny as #1 option.
    LMA was an experienced player in 2015 against Grizz, in 2016 against OKC too. If he can have just one or two good games in a series he's not a reliable #1 option.
    Obviously, Aldridge is not a number one option on an elite team, but you neglected to mention the wrist injury he played through in the '15 playoffs, the fact that he was good in the '16 playoffs, as well as Trail Blazers maxing out on their potential.

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    LMA should be the number one option for 3 quarters. Kinda like shaq, TD, and KG were for Kobe, Manu & TP, and PP & Ray. LMA should carry us and has the tools too. Leonard should chip in and dominate defensively. Gay and Manu should close out the 1st and 3rd. Then in the 4th it's the Leonard show.

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    LMA should be the number one option for 3 quarters. Kinda like shaq, TD, and KG were for Kobe, Manu & TP, and PP & Ray. LMA should carry us and has the tools too. Leonard should chip in and dominate defensively. Gay and Manu should close out the 1st and 3rd. Then in the 4th it's the Leonard show.
    Wow

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    LMA didn't get his touches last season because he played poorly. Pop/Kawhi and the team would constantly feed him touches to start games last season and all it did was put the team in a hole. If Aldridge wants touches he will have to earn them just like anyone else. Also not sure why Kawhi should see fewer touches, especially when he's the most efficient player on the team, take those touches away from Pau, Patty etc.

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