I wish they told the Spurs offer(s).
They probably were willing to give up Lamarcus. He was in trade rumors all summer and prior to his talk with Pop had requested a trade. No one wanted him, or at least no one wanted to surrender asssrts for him. One of the rumors involved Lamarcus and parts for Bledsoe and parts. I remember that, and a 3 team deal.
I do think it was LMA, Green, Murray and more for Kyrie and some filler. I think the Spurs would very possibly have a worse record this year had that trade gone through, but that's another post. I think LMA would be worth both the Brooklyn pick and Thomas easily right now, but even at the time of the trade, Thomas was expected to be out for a long time. He didn't have more value than Aldridge, who was already making near what he would on a new deal rather than expecting to get four times as much like IT.
I also don't think LMA wasn't moved simply because the Spurs couldn't do it. I think like with Kyrie, the Spurs were targeting a particular player in the draft and weren't able to secure that guy. In particular, they were likely trying to get Josh Jackson from Phoenix, since the Cavs seemed to want him as the basis for an Irving deal. PATFO doesn't trade players away for value. They either trade for someone or they dump the guy at all costs. If the team were looking to unload LMA last year, he'd be gone. Simply not getting a high enough pick would not have been a good enough reason to keep him.
I suppose he'd have been useful, but not really a spurs player.
or the Iceman . . .
George Gervin > Parker, Manu
I doubt the Aldridge extension or anything beyond 2018 meant much to LeBron and Rich Paul. He was disgruntled and was coming off an average season, whereas IT was both a direct replacement and an all star. IMO he had more value than Aldridge at the time even with his injury, especially to the Cavs who already had Love on a long term deal and no means to get a star PG replacement for Kyrie. In any case either of :
*Aldridge, Murray, picks for Kyrie
*Aldridge, Green, Murray, picks for Kyrie, Shumpert
were worse deals than what they got.
I agree about the worse record for this season though. The roster would have been incredibly unbalanced.
Well, if the chips in question were Funyuns... yeah, that's too much.
Funyuns are like gold in some countries.
Tried really hard:
We'll give our 17 euro stashes.
Probably because Irving didn't want to leave one hole city for another where he gets his stats nerfed by Pop the Stat Nerf Bat.
Before my time. Also before we in Germany had access to NBA-Basketball. I've seen highlights of the iceman, but nothing more, so I can't judge if he was better than TP/MG.
But anyway, TGY played his usual boring anti-Manu schtick, so I was referring to that.
WOJ becoming a troll all of a sudden
Agree totally. The only conceivable way the Spurs could have "tried hard" to get Kyrie would have been to recruit a third team facilitator. A direct Spurs-Cavs deal seems completely unworkable.
Better than kyrie
Should go without saying. As was discussed ad nauseam, they obviously never had the assets to do a direct trade and a 3 teamer would have been difficult too.
Unfortunately, it appears they're only willing to make a significant move if it's for a player of at least Irving's caliber, which isn't happening either in trade or free agency. Should have been in on Bledsoe and definitely should be if Walker becomes available relatively soon.
Chance to play with Baynesy in Bostonerry or Bostononia or wherever Kyrie went was clearly too much to resist.
I think you are right on this.
They seemed willing to be very aggressive only for Kyrie or CP3. They might think a lesser "star" isn't worth it and they might not be willing to part with assets for someone they aren't sure will make them truly better.
Maybe Pop overrates Tony at this point. They might try next summer again to improve the team which is why I don't expect any current Spur FA to give a discount, nor should they. Rudy only did that bc he was coming back from a tough injury...
I wonder what means "tried hard"...Until we know the names involved or the offers -which Spurs will never reveal- it just all speculation.
Finley says Hi.....! Lol
You guys need to face it that these players toss love their stats. Nobody is willing to up their stats with popovich resting bs. He took Leonard average down a while point the last few weeks of the season.
No one needs to face anything. Irving wanted to go to SA, but they couldn't give Cleveland what they wanted. Complaints like yours belong on a different subject.
Yep. Kyrie wanted to go to the Spurs. That was my main complaint at the time, I thought the Spurs weren't really trying, or even that interested in him even though he asked to play for the Spurs. I'm happy that they did try.
I'm surprised so many people are surprised by this. I'm fully confident RC would explore this given Irving's expressed desire to play for the Spurs. Since, it would have to have been through trade, you have to believe Kyrie. It's not like he was an FA and doing the "maybe the Spurs" thing for leverage as some do. But SA didn't have the assets Boston did. (No one has the assets they did).
Philly could have done Jackson (taken at 3), Bayless and the LAL/SAC pick. In retrospect, Irving/Covington/Simmons/Saric/Embiid would have been absolutely insane.
No kidding.
It was known Spurs were among the teams very interested in July. For those who are slow, that means Spurs were trying.
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