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    Proposal is DOA. Crying Jordan doesn't want our trash.

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    I'm thinking a statue. The question is whether he'll be waving a towel or doing that "Froger" thing from 2014.
    Animatronic Frogger statue.
    It will be glorious and nauseating at the same time.

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    Spurs are backed into a corner here, unfortunately.

    If this were NBA2K, Kemba 100% makes all the sense in the world.

    In reality, the Spurs are never going to deal Parker. I'd like to say they would only do it if they were getting a HUGE return (which Kemba woul dbe)...but even then, I feel like PATFO wouldn't pull the trigger.

    As for Mills, the Hornets are trying to shed salary, and Mills is being overpaid. So that doesn't really making him a very valuable trading chip.

    Also, the only way the Hornets move Walker is if they can unload one of their other ty contracts with him, and to their credit, the Spurs are too forward looking to take on a bad contract just to bring in a good player. I know they have been enamored with Batum for years, but he has fallen off a cliff recently, and is massively overpaid.

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    The only viable trade I see is Kemba/MKG or Kemba/Marvin for Patty/Rudy/Murray/SA 1st.

    I dont see anyone eating Batums deal. I think SA would move Patty he has not earned any loyalty status IMO. I think they would be more than fine moving Murray for a win-now PG. I think they would be fine with the money MKG or Marvin makes.

    That move would still save CHA plenty of money especially since Rudy would probably opt-out anyways.

    I just don’t see SA trading Rudy though after convincing him to take less money to come to SA. The optics are bad and Im sure Rudy/his agent would be pretty pissed. Obviously SA may be willing to do that, but it seems unlikely.

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    even recently people have been saying tony just needs to get healthy

    shooting 24% the past three games.
    As bad as Tp has shot the last 3 games, how much better has he shot than Murray the entire season? What does that say about Murray’s offensive game?

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    Maybe a third team could get involved and take Marvin.

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    I think the Spurs could use Marvin especially if they are losing Rudy

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    As bad as Tp has shot the last 3 games, how much better has he shot than Murray the entire season? What does that say about Murray’s offensive game?
    Word.. TP is at or right near 47% shooting on the season while Murray was flirting with 40%. But let these guys use their 3 game sample size for their agendas. And it took 3 off games for that to get to 47% for Parker, I'm pretty sure he was at or much closer to 50 prior to that

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    Word.. TP is at or right near 47% shooting on the season while Murray was flirting with 40%. But let these guys use their 3 game sample size for their agendas. And it took 3 off games for that to get to 47% for Parker, I'm pretty sure he was at or much closer to 50 prior to that
    He was at 51% and it’s typical lazy analysis.

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    There will always be fans who make excuses for Tony.
    yeah, it didn't take too long.

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    Word.. TP is at or right near 47% shooting on the season while Murray was flirting with 40%. But let these guys use their 3 game sample size for their agendas. And it took 3 off games for that to get to 47% for Parker, I'm pretty sure he was at or much closer to 50 prior to that


    if it makes you feel any better tony's shooting 32% the last ten games.

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    if it makes you feel any better tony's shooting 32% the last ten games.
    So who has been a better offensive player this year: TP or Murray?

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    if it makes you feel any better tony's shooting 32% the last ten games.
    It's actually 42% in the last 10 games. Which is still a percent higher than Murray on the whole year. Tony in a funk is on par or better than Murray overall offensively.

    Not sure how you calculated 32 tbh.

    Also, Murray is 39% in his last 10 games

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    Still that’s horrible for a starting PG ... which is why Murray himself wasn’t starting for long even with Tony injured once upon a time.

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    So who has been a better offensive player this year: TP or Murray?
    this isn't football, try taking defense into account.

    if i could only choose one to remain on the roster i'm taking murray.

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    It's actually 42% in the last 10 games. Which is still a percent higher than Murray on the whole year. Tony in a funk is on par or better than Murray overall offensively.

    Not sure how you calculated 32 tbh.

    Also, Murray is 39% in his last 10 games
    my mistake, tony's shooting 32% his last seven games. the chart i looked at was for the last ten games but he didn't play three of those.

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    this isn't football, try taking defense into account.

    if i could only choose one to remain on the roster i'm taking murray.
    The teams biggest issue right now is scoring the ball, and you want to roll with the PG that is least capable of scoring and/or creating for others. Sounds about right.

    If we need stops , sure throw him in there. But overall, TP is best suited to run our offense. When Kawhi comes back, maybe things will change.

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    The teams biggest issue right now is scoring the ball, and you want to roll with the PG that is least capable of scoring and/or creating for others. Sounds about right.

    If we need stops , sure throw him in there. But overall, TP is best suited to run our offense. When Kawhi comes back, maybe things will change.
    The offense runs worse with Tony in there. The only PG with positive offensive numbers is Patty.

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    The offense runs worse with Tony in there. The only PG with positive offensive numbers is Patty.
    That is incorrect.

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    this isn't football, try taking defense into account.

    if i could only choose one to remain on the roster i'm taking murray.
    Can’t answer the quetstion

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    That is incorrect.
    numbers for patty, then murray, then parker:

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    Are you not reading? OWS is an offensive stat and TP is grading out as a positive there (given it’s barley, but still, it puts Murray’s putrid offense into context that he’s grading out as one of the worst offensive players in the NBA for guards and isn’t even better than an old/bad TP on offense.

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    Can’t answer the quetstion
    what i'm doing is not ignoring that defense is part of the game.

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    -3.5 is twice as bad as last year.

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    what i'm doing is not ignoring that defense is part of the game.
    This was an offensive conversation. You didn’t mention TP’s defense in your shooting % post. You were talking about offense.

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