Gifted. Klay is better
Do the Warriors lose Klay in your hypothetical? Because if so, that’s a totally unfair parallel as you’ve weakened an opponent without any compensation. And if they don’t, do you really think spot up Klay is worth 9 more wins? And where do the Spurs sit with a healthy Kawhi?
And lol at being gifted Finals MVP. The dude shot 60% from the field and the series was such a blowout that he only has to average 33 minutes.
Gifted. Klay is better
It's been a frustrating season, but we still don't know what this team has. If right after the ASB Kawhi still isn't back, then screw it. We're a first round team without him, and maaaybe a surprise upset at best.
People can be upset at the FO for w/e moves they think should've been made or the contracts given, but at the end of the day, we haven't had a chance to see what this team can do. They've had a full lineup, what 2x this year?
There's no way anyone could've predicted this mess with Kawhi would be happening.
only thing worse than the season the spurs are having is the season ST is having. definitely a lottery year for this site.
delirious or hater
Brad Stevens would take on look at this roster and laugh his ass off![]()
Would probably cut 80% of the roster on day one, as he should.![]()
Rank these coaches as of 2-12-2018 :
Quin Snyder
Brad Stevens
Rick Carlisle
Steve Kerr
Gregg Popovich
1. Brad Stevens
2. Quin Snyder
3. Rick Carlisle
4. Steve Kerr
5. Ime Udoka
6. Becky Hammon
7. Phil Jackson's testicle
8. Pop
Stevens
Pop
Carlisle
Snyder
Kerr
I'd switch Kerr and Carlisle but I agree with the rest.
Pop is still the best. He still does more with less. Brad Stevens is doing ok in the East but he got rid of a team cancer and picked up a great scorer in the process. Al Horford is no slouch.
The Celtics organization and name alone garner them praise from most people including me. The Paul Pierce facade was an embarrassment though, pretending he's better than Larry Legend. What the is wrong with people?
Kerr made a good call early in his coaching career to have Steph actually take good shots instead of the high screen, 2 man game that relied solely on his ability to shoot 27' over a defender. He also got people to buy in on his system of sharing the ball. Prior to Kerr, the Warriors were dead lasts in number of passes before a shot. In their first year after Kerr, they moved up to 1st. So Kerr deserves credit for taking a high potential ticking time bomb and turning into a true championship juggernaut. Then he acquires Durant and it's all over now. So he's been lucky as to be part of that process, but he had a hand in getting past the stalemate that Mark Jackson brought about with his PG centric play style.
Otherwise, as far as coaching, Kerr was absent most of the time for most of the games he's given credit for winning. This shows the team can run without him. He's overrated.
Carlisle is a much better coach than Kerr is currently. Quinn has the fortune to have a lot of games in a place most teams don't want to play, much like Denver.
Who said Paul Pierce is better than Larry Bird? Care to fill me in on that?
Kerr also made the decision to thrust Draymond Green into a starting role. big reason for their improvement from the jackson days
Kerr is far better suited to coach today's players than Pop, tbh..he allows his players to be themselves, they put up their numbers, they play however many minutes they want, he doesn't mind their celebrations and he doesn't berate them on national TV in an attempt to maintain an image..
I can't even imagine the Warriors, Rockets or LeBron wanting to play for Pop in an NBA setting..his coaching approach is so antiquated, I'm not surprised that he's had problems with both Aldridge and Kawhi..
Antiquated coach, antiquated players, antiquated system.
The worst part is, he hides behind "it's just basketball" when questioned on anything.
it's easy to say that when he has the most stacked team in nba history. its easy to overcome a ty/cancerous culture when the talent on the floor is so lopsided. its why the lakers were still winning with shaq and kobe publicly calling each other out.
kerr was a massive upgrade to mark jackson (didn't run anything resembling a system, didn't have the team commit to defense, didn't realize draymond green was actually an asset), but he's not in pop's stratosphere yet imho.
can you imagine kerr having to give big minutes to kyle anderson, dejounte murray, patty mills, danny green, etc...?
The Warriors pre-Durant weren't historically talented, not even close, tbh..they were still the most dominant team since the 90s Bulls..
Their culture was a huge selling point for Durant..can you imagine Pop even having Draymond Green on his roster?absolutely no chance..can you picture Pop allowing Curry to dance all over the floor? 0% chance..
They have fun and play free-spirited basketball, that's what millenials want and it's a significant part of their great chemistry..they aren't interested in some 70-year old man yelling at them, limiting their minutes and stats, and playing 90s basketball..
And I don't know if Kerr is a better coach, all I said was that he's much better suited to coach today's players..I don't even think that's arguable IMO..
Truth bomb, but still a radical concept to all the fluffers and "classy" burrito eaters here.
When people mention this team as a location FAs don't want to play for, the reason certainly isn't only about location...
Good points.
outside of Timmy D, Pop’s old school style has been alienating the new generation of young players. He does like his foreign players perhaps bc they are used to other leagues where the coaching is said to be brutal.
He has however, been losing the plot with his American talent most of which are probably closeted diva personalities. It says something about the new generation I am sure, but it’s a player’s league and he has to get with the program more. He’s neutering guys at times. He does it to the young guys specially in the early stages of their careers when they are powerless and prone to struggles JSimms said you have to be really tough mentally to be able to play for Pop (not making this up) while others in the league are chilling at the club. He might have gotten an earful for doing the jet celebration after a dunk. He said he wanted to unleash the beast inside him. Maybe that just speaks to his comfort level. He felt restricted playing for Pop. Apparently Dedmon got in the doghouse never to come back out.
He does it go young stars when he puts them on minutes restrictions and management without need. Like they can’t play more than 30 minutes? Aside of “.touches” Aldridge complained about playing time. Kiwi has complained of Pop giving up on games early and benching guys with time still in the game... an underrated aspect of Kiwi being so aloof as that he really doesn’t want to talk. I am sure he must have his disagreements with Pop privately.
of corse he likes the cultures foreign players like Pau and Patty. Those guys will get a large share of the pie.
He admitted to overcoaching Aldridge to the point the only star he’s lured in 20 years wanted to leave. That’s ugly.
It’s no wonder many guys can’t be Spurs and the player’s give Pop lip service but don’t want to play for him really. They should be giving lip service not to Pop, but to the real Spurs, the one who take the disciplinarian’s coaching.
Got to Love Pop and what he’s accomplished but his recent track record with both stars and role players doesn’t give the impression he has a firm grasp with everyone unless they are cultured and foreign.
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