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    "ally with Russia!"

    Pootin is taking down America, trying to replace democracies with autocracies, with "Russian asset" Trash helping out.

    "ally with Russia!"

    goddamn, rightwingnutjobs are ing stupid

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    How the are we supposed to know without any proof? You’d need evidence in order to form a conclusion?
    What would you accept as proof?

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    Evidence that proved the claim? Anything that could be acceptable in a court of law, legally valid evidence that this occurred. Basically nothing cir stantial.

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    once again the sanctimonious U.S. accusing another nation of doing what we do as much, and often more, than other countries. the line of countries that would line up with the chance to indict the U.S. governments and corporations for such invasions would go on for miles. in the meantime, the fact that foreign money does more to influence our elections goes undeterred.

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    To chap your ass for one, for two because it’s the truth. This country needs to ally with Russia and India against mutual threats for our long term stability. Globalists would rather ally with China and Pakistan, and are willing to spread false information about Russia in order to demonize them and prevent any warming up of relations. It’s stupid and harmful foreign policy and threatens us all with nuclear holocaust.
    Agree with most of this. Except US stupidity has caused Russia-China alliance to fortify and I dont see either breaking up this alliance for a country that threatns to nuke countries on a daily basis

    Agree with your last statement as well. I am american and have lots of assets in US. If I could pick between US and Russia Id pick US. But it does not work that way, the nukes will go both ways and will mean the end of all of us.

    We won the cold war vs Soviets and instead of thinking of peace we went in to loot Russia and then started wars all over the world. We are a sad militaristic oligarchy that needs a cold war to keep on living. World peace would be the end of the US mpire

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    "ally with Russia!"

    Pootin is taking down America, trying to replace democracies with autocracies, with "Russian asset" Trash helping out.

    "ally with Russia!"

    goddamn, rightwingnutjobs are ing stupid
    lol the insane pointing fingers and diagnosing others. go see your doc already!

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    once again the sanctimonious U.S. accusing another nation of doing what we do as much, and often more, than other countries. the line of countries that would line up with the chance to indict the U.S. governments and corporations for such invasions would go on for miles. in the meantime, the fact that foreign money does more to influence our elections goes undeterred.
    sure, USA is exceptional, better than all other countries,

    USA does unto other countries, but other countries better not do anything to USA.

    USA is the most dangerous, peace-violating country on the planet, and proud of it.

    "Why Do They Hate Us?"

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    Feel free to point out the most costly French military cyber attack.
    Here ya go

    Another 2013 story in Le Monde concerned a cyber-attack on Iran's nuclear installations, which also targeted computers in Canada, Spain, Greece, Norway, Algeria and Ivory Coast. In a note leaked by Snowden, Canadian officials said they were fairly certain that the attack had been mounted by a French intelligence agency. The French government denied any involvement.

    But at his old school, Barbier said that when the Canadians reverse-engineered the malware, they found that its programmer had nicknamed it "Babar" and signed it " i," two clues that led them to believe he was French.

    "And he was," said Barbier, without acknowledging which agency, if any, the programmer worked for.


    https://www.pcworld.com/article/3118...-says.amp.html


    Like Obama said everyone hacks and spies on each other

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    Very interesting story on that same article. US been caught hacking French Elections

    There was that time he caught the U.S. National Security Agency delving into computers at the Elysée Palace, residence of the French president, for example. And flew to Washington to tell them they'd been found out. Or when the Canadians said they -- and the Iranians, the Spaniards, the Algerians and a few others -- had all been hacked by a Frenchman, and they were totally right, although the French government denied it.

    The first concerned the run-up to the 2012 French presidential election, when the DGSE found malware on computers at the presidential residence, the Elysée Palace.

    Two years previously, that same malware had been used in an attack on the European Commission, he told them.

    By 2012, the DGSE had the means at its disposal to identify the origin of the new attack, Barbier said. He concluded that it could only have been the U.S., and using a technique that, thanks to Edward Snowden, we now know as Quantum Insert.


    The following year, he said, the new president sent him to Washington to complain to the director of the NSA, Keith Alexander.

    "We were sure it was them. Alexander wasn't happy. In the end, he said, 'Bernard, well done. ... You French are good,' meaning he thought we'd never catch them," Barbier told the students.

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    They had a online group names "woke blacks"

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    once again the sanctimonious U.S. accusing another nation of doing what we do as much, and often more, than other countries. the line of countries that would line up with the chance to indict the U.S. governments and corporations for such invasions would go on for miles. in the meantime, the fact that foreign money does more to influence our elections goes undeterred.
    It's not the 1960s-70s anymore.

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    once again the sanctimonious U.S. accusing another nation of doing what we do as much, and often more, than other countries. the line of countries that would line up with the chance to indict the U.S. governments and corporations for such invasions would go on for miles. in the meantime, the fact that foreign money does more to influence our elections goes undeterred.
    Yet this sanctimonious country tells on itself.
    And is allowed to. The 4th branch of the government (read press), allows us to search and find out what we believe to be truthful. We have access to info. Now sadly, it appears a significant number of people search for anything that bolsters their twisted worldview, this is a problem. Believing utubes about how we are being duped concerning moon landings. Never question how difficult this would be to pull off, or more importantly, what the motive for lying is. I'm hoping this kind of is not a part of the Trump effect. Lying is OK

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    It's not the 1960s-70s anymore.
    LOL forgetting Edward Snowdens revlations

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    LOL forgetting Edward Snowdens revlations
    Who broke that?

    Were Is the best analysis on that situation from?

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    It's not the 1960s-70s anymore.
    US invaded Iraq for BigOil in the 2000s, and is still there and illegally in 100+ countries. US ed up democratically elected regimes in Central and South America in the 1970s, 1980s. Refugess from Central America are STILL seeking asylum in USA from violence derived from USA's intervention.

    America, the "country of peace". The world would be so much better without USA's Capitalist Empire ing up the planet.

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    LOL forgetting Edward Snowdens revlations
    There is a difference between surveillance and attacking a country's financial and electoral system.

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    There is a difference between surveillance and attacking a country's financial and electoral system.
    So when we do it its survillance but when Russia does it its hacking and an act of war

    Got it

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    These Trumpies were being told

    "On August 20, we want to gather patriots on the start of Floridian towns and cities and march to unite America and support Donald Trump!
    Florida is still a purple state and we need to appoint it red,”

    thought it was strange, and went back to building a cage with Clinton sitting in it per orders and $

    Now this is starting to get really funny, Da?

    They even got after Rubio in Florida.
    This is hilarious. Can't wait to read the rest of this stuff, work calls.

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    Oh

    and...

    God bless you Robert Mueller.
    The comedy is just beginning.

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    So when we do it its survillance but when Russia does it its hacking and an act of war

    Got it
    Bank fraud and theft is now surveillance?

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    Bank fraud and theft is now surveillance?
    hater never knows what he's talking about.

    Ever.

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    Bank fraud and theft is now surveillance?
    Just because its not bankfraud doesnt make it legal


    Installing malware in French presidential office or Angela merkels phone is not a crime?

    Is stealing information not theft?

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    Just because its not bankfraud doesnt make it legal


    Installing malware in French presidential office or Angela merkels phone is not a crime?

    Is stealing information not theft?
    not when obama does it... seems to be the narrative.

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    Just because its not bankfraud doesnt make it legal


    Installing malware in French presidential office or Angela merkels phone is not a crime?

    Is stealing information not theft?
    I get that you are trying to make a moral equivalence to excuse your preferred nation state but it's not a compelling argument. Nevermind that the American people widely denounced the NSA's surveillance.

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