Yeah, I agree with the strategic "demotions" 100%.. Same thing I thought with Danny going to the bench
Gonna be interesting... he lost his starting spot to a rook, he can't seemingly beat Fatty Stacks to close games... he's on a pretty weird situation...
You would almost think the Spurs are getting ready for the pricetag and demoting him is a way to tell him "hey, you gotta get backup PG money now"... we'll see...
Yeah, I agree with the strategic "demotions" 100%.. Same thing I thought with Danny going to the bench
Even backup money is too much. He should retire, but he won't. So, anything more than the vet minimum is too much.
I'm sure it'll be more than vet min... although I don't think he'll have the leverage Manu had when another team came knocking for him...
Think it's tied to what they do at shooting guard . . .
- If Green is re-signed, does he become a permanent bench player? He'd still play similar minutes and have every opportunity to close, it would just be so that they can have the most logical back court pairings.
- If Green isn't re-signed, do they pursue Bradley or maybe Caldwell-Pope? Can't see either being amendable to coming off the bench, which would force Mills-Parker together.
- If Green isn't re-signed, do they not pursue a replacement? That would open a rotation spot for Forbes/White, but leave them without a legit starting/closing option.
The third scenario is probably the only way Parker gets 3 more seasons and almost certainly gets him a higher average annual value than he otherwise would. He's definitely not getting the veterans minimum though.
Manu took a pay cut to join the Spurs that year. What a player.![]()
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I could see parker getting 5mil a year deals for 2 years and then cashing out with a big last year. For team salary purposes.
Training camp invitee. If he does well, give him a 10-day contract.
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Anybody see his face when DJ scores on Westbrook?
Supermax loyalty contract at 12:01 AM, tbh.
No. Tell us the story.
Let's see, Manu signed for $15M at age 38 and Pau signed up for 48M at age 37. Parker is still a spring chicken at 35 and with all that loyalty money being thrown around, he could be in line for a max deal.
I'd rather have 400-pound Raymond Felton, sadly..hmm, nah, I wouldn't go that far..
Vet minimum should be the goal, hopefully TP doesn't take it as an insult..
I still think Green is gone, and I don't think KCP or Bradley would take the MLE which something like $9 million IIRC, so option 3 seems like the most likely route.
Murray would, in effect, be his replacement as the second perimeter defender assuming Kawhi is actually back next season. I suspect Aldridge will start full time at center which leave two SL spots remaining, one of which most certainly goes to Mills with Bertans or Anderson at 4 filling out the starting 5.
Murray, Mills, Kawhi, Bertans/Anderson, Aldridge.
Parker, Manu, Gay, Bertans/Anderson, , Gasol
Closing lineups would probably be the same as the SL depending on the situational needs. The Bertans unit would probably be much better offensively and decent defensively while the Anderson unit would probably be much better defensively and decent offensively.
I think Parker ends up getting a 2 year $10 million deal or $12 million over 3 years.
One thing I haven't heard asked yet is what happens if Gay opts out? Would PATFO David Lee him or resign him? (assuming Bertans and Anderson are also retained) and figure out the 3/4 minutes between them and Kawhi.
Depends on what the team does to make cap space. I think he'll get about $20 Million over the final three years. Could be a straight deal, could be like Manu's last three years or it could be like Tim's last three. Hopefully it's the first option and the team dumps Patty and Pau or moves Murray and Mills for Walker.
If he doensn’t get Vet minimum they can offer him a lifetime of whataburger. Lol.
Who are we all kidding? He will get something similar to Manu’s. 1 year 14 million or 3 year/42 million. Farewell contract.
Whatever Tony gets, I want it to be in the form of an extension rather than a new contract. Tony has the strange distinction of playing 17 years and never once being a free agent. I don't know what the record is, because Parker has to be up there.
If he saves us from a first round exit like he did last year and in 2014, whatever he wants.
Anything above vet minimum would be overpaying, and even that is too much. Tony should just read the scenario and retire, or go play in France, tbh.
Parker doesn't have 3 years left in this pg driven league. Now he can go out there and play to collect checks, but he would be worse than Iverson in PHilly the last time.
i’d rather take timmy for the minimum.
Yeah, they're not taking the MLE, but there are other ways to create room (namely, Gay opting out or being traded), if they prioritize starting shooting guard. Unfortunately, I think option 3 is most likely too.
Agreed. The problem is, the ulative effect doesn't work (Murray becoming the second perimeter defender and Mills becoming the spacer in the starting lineup); you need 2 way players.
It'll probably remain situational, with Gasol still starting more often than not.
They'd probably let him walk. I know it's his first season back after tearing his Achilles and he had bursitis too, but it doesn't bode well that he's playing a limited, dwindling role without Leonard.
Sounds about right. I'd be surprised if they go to 3 years though.
While I really like Green, I am almost resigned to the fact that the won't be re-signed. I am not all that worried about Mills continuing to start, as the nominal SG, he is a poor defender that can be exploited but Kawhi (all this assumes that he's healthy) LMA and Murray are all well above average defenders and lineups with Bertans at the 4 (in which he almost exclusively plays with Aldridge) has been good defensively (and also great offensively) so having only one weak link shouldn't hurt the defense much at all.
Gasol's come off the bench 11 of the last nineteen games so its hard to tell either way but the Spurs have been much better with Aldridge at the 5, which I think PATFO recognizes while it also has to balance his ego. He's still averaging about 18 mpg while having a higher usage even with having to share the ball with Parker, Manu, and Gay.
If the Spurs want to try and modernize the offense then Mills, Murray, Leonard, Bertans, and Aldridge would be the best combination using option 3. Three high volume shooters around Aldridge, Bertans and Mills spacing the floor during Kawhi/LMA pick and pop/rolls.
If Gay picks up his option the i'd be fine with him being back next season but if he were to opt out and seek more than a one year deal, then the Spurs should at least consider not resigning him and putting that money towards retaining Green along with re-signing Bertans and Anderson.
As for Parker, he wants to play three more seasons after this one- whether that's even possible remains to be seen but if he were willing to less money per year in order to have an extra year tacked on, then I think that PATFO may consider it.
It will depend on his production during the PO.
Right now he doesn't deserve more than the min.
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