OT: Can you imagine Bartolomeo Colon doing this?..Obeseball

[Chris Fall]

Rich countries play soccer. Nkce try though fatass.

I didn’t say they didn’t.

Just like not all soccer players beat s in the shower. Just like not all pro baseball players are fat and slow. Just like not all dart throwers drink beer. Just like not all soccer players ate out of the garbage growing up.

Lol you like to use the fat and slow baseball stereotype but get butthurt over the poor, third world stereotype?

No bueno, beater.

[apalisoc_9]

Fat and slow is not a baseball stereotype though.

Baseball as a sport is slow. Players barely burn 20 calories.

The whle point of a sport is "activity"

If not then if baseball is a sport, monopoly is a sport too.

Baseball is a game not a sport since it doesnt exert the needed energy to qualify as a sport.

[Chris Fall]

Moving the goal posts to fit your narrative. But that’s fine. Whatever.

So if fat which is part of your argument, is not a stereotype, what percentage of MLB players do you think are Bartolo Colon obese? 1%? Less? Probably less than the percentage of professional soccer players who actually and literally beat s. So if fat is not a stereotype for baseball, then beating isn’t a stereotype for soccer either.

So have it your way. Baseball has fat people. Soccer has beaters. You win.

[DAF86]

Implying baseball doesn't have gots.

[midnightpulp]

/thread

Way higher than Ronaldo, too, who we know has a ty vertical leap. Stupid thread, anyhow. It's like asking if naldo can throw a baseball accurately at 95mph, and the last time we saw him throw a baseball, he looked like a girl.

[Chris]

No one watches Soccer in the United States It's boring AF! I'd rather watch NASCAR than that garbage and NASCAR is trash

[midnightpulp]

Fat and slow is not a baseball stereotype though.

Baseball as a sport is slow. Players barely burn 20 calories.

The whle point of a sport is "activity"

If not then if baseball is a sport, monopoly is a sport too.

Baseball is a game not a sport since it doesnt exert the needed energy to qualify as a sport.

This is a re ed argument. The intuitive definition of a "Sport" is a compe ive activity in which physical skill plays an integral part in performance. Baseball challenges every core athletic trait aside from stamina (thus the dumbass comparison to darts and bowling, which don't challenge any physical skill aside from light throwing). I would also argue that basketball doesn't really challenge stamina all that much, either. Stamina sports are like triathlons and marathons. Basketball is a decent cardio workout, but nothing really that challenging. Us who played all these sports at an organized level keep telling you, baseball>basketball and football in difficulty and physical demand. And the mental demand is another universe compared to those two sports (aside from the QB position).

[midnightpulp]

Time for a nail in the coffin from perhaps the greatest soccer mind to ever live and a top 5 all-time player, who actually played both sports at a high level (one much higher than the other obviously):

"Playing baseball I learned many details that were useful to football, when you determine the flight of the pitch and judging it as a catcher without a perfect view. That sharpened one of my strengths as a footballer, having a wider field of vision. I learned to think ahead. It has many parallels with football: speed, acceleration, adaptation, balance, spatial awareness, anticipation, and more."

- Johan Cruyff

I'll echo this point. Playing baseball at an early age develops pretty much every useful athletic skill there is, along with refining your hand-eye coordination, reaction time, analytical thinking, and spatial awareness, that it's much easier to transition to other sports later on. Basketball and football came easy. Yet the kids who played nothing but basketball (and we had some good young players at my school who played in top SoCal AAU leagues) looked like in' spastics when we played baseball at P.E. or whatever.

[midnightpulp]

You didn’t have to choose the oldest, fattest baseball player. I would guess the vast majority of MLB baseball players couldn’t do that, at least at that height or with any type of aiming accuracy or power. If your point was baseball players can’t do things soccer players can, congratulations?

My guess is you couldn’t find a professional soccer player who could throw a baseball 95 MPH, let alone with accuracy and movement, not even the very best soccer players in the world. In fact, I’d guess most professional soccer players would even struggle to break 60 MPH throwing it as hard as they can. Likewise, they’d look like 4 year old kids swinging the bat trying to hit 95 or a major league breaking ball.

What does that say about their athleticism or hand-eye coordination or arm strength? I don’t know. It means each class of athlete is capable of doing things the other class couldn’t do with anywhere near the same type of proficiency.

Was that the point?

Cherry picking the specialized fat players like Colon and a few over-the-hill DHs (fat DHs are quickly going extinct) is all they have. The majority of baseball players certainly have the athleticism to pull off a Bicycle Kick (they likely don't have the skill, since, you know, they don't play in' soccer, though Brett Lawrie could probably easily pull one off in a practice setting). In any event, yeah:

My guess is you couldn’t find a professional soccer player who could throw a baseball 95 MPH, let alone with accuracy and movement, not even the very best soccer players in the world.

Ronaldo throwing a baseball.

Like a 4 year old girl.



Neymar:



And I'll ask, could you imagine that swing trying to hit this?

[apalisoc_9]

No one watches Soccer in the United States It's boring AF! I'd rather watch NASCAR than that garbage and NASCAR is trash

Youd also rather shoot a school or kick a pregnant muslim woman rather than admit you're wrong so your credibility..

[Chris]

Youd also rather shoot a school or kick a pregnant muslim woman rather than admit you're wrong so your credibility..

That was out of Left field.

[apalisoc_9]

That was out of Left field.

Shut up bro.

Your dismissal of a political prodigy in Hogg is so insulting im a ignore you for a while.

[apalisoc_9]

Time for a nail in the coffin from perhaps the greatest soccer mind to ever live and a top 5 all-time player, who actually played both sports at a high level (one much higher than the other obviously):



- Johan Cruyff

I'll echo this point. Playing baseball at an early age develops pretty much every useful athletic skill there is, along with refining your hand-eye coordination, reaction time, analytical thinking, and spatial awareness, that it's much easier to transition to other sports later on. Basketball and football came easy. Yet the kids who played nothing but basketball (and we had some good young players at my school who played in top SoCal AAU leagues) looked like in' spastics when we played baseball at P.E. or whatever.

That's really limited to pitchers though.

Pitchers are just about the only player in fatball that I would consider athletes. Everyone else was fat and bad at griderion or basketball.

[midnightpulp]

That's really limited to pitchers though.

Pitchers are just about the only player in fatball that I would consider athletes. Everyone else was fat and bad at griderion or basketball.

Speaking out of your ass. Pitchers are athletes, but when is the last time you seen a pitcher sprint over 20 mph, lateral jump 10 feet to rob a 110 mph line drive, sprint over 20 mph to chase down a 150 foot high fly ball over 100 feet away in under 4 seconds? Yeah, this guy is "fat" and not an "athlete."



And you obviously don't know the American sports landscape. Danny Ainge, too for the Blue Jays, washed out, and went on to have an All-Star NBA career. Russell Wilson. Washed out of A ball. Went on to the NFL and won a le. Shaq Thompson. A high level highschool baseball and football player. Tried out pro baseball first after he was drafted. In rookie ball, he went 0-39 with 37 strikeouts. Just stop.

And Cruyff wasn't a pitcher.

[dfens]

@midnightcuck, you upset son? beisball needs presidential initiatives to save the game... talk about irrelevancy.

also baby lakers 2nd team beat the spurs too

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Mid 5-post meltdown

[spurraider21]

nobody is hitting that. its way off the plate and nearly in the dirt. just getting people to chase... a la a schilling splitter

[midnightpulp]

Mid 5-post meltdown

Responding to posters is a meltdown now

[midnightpulp]

nobody is hitting that. its way off the plate and nearly in the dirt. just getting people to chase... a la a schilling splitter

This is probably the main issue with baseball, in that television is poor at illustrating what's actually happening. To a casual viewer, it looks like Abreu swung at a bad pitch and just chased, but from a right handed pitcher (even more so with Kluber's arm slotting and cross step) to a right handed batter that pitch is looking like a fastball all the way until the last 5 feet where it breaks. It's almost impossible to lay off that pitch, since batting is not about seeing the pitch all in the way into homeplate (if you tried to hit like that, you'd whiff/foul off every time) but gauging the trajectory of the ball from the pitcher's point of release and the ball's spin characteristics (bad pitchers don't have tight spins on sliders, curves, etc so the pitch isn't disguised and hitters know to lay off). Abreu was already far past the commitment window and just tried to foul it off with a late swing adjustment as he saw the ball break across homeplate.

[apalisoc_9]

Look some guy can curve a ball with his hand

Soccer players do these with their ing foot

[midnightpulp]

Look some guy can curve a ball with his hand

Soccer players do these with their ing foot

Show me the soccer player curving a baseball with his foot into a area not much larger than a 20" tv? You do realize that a soccerball essentially being a balloon with a 10" diameter makes it much easier to curve due to the Magnus Effect (lower the density, the greater the Magnus Effect). Furthermore, go try and "bend a soccer ball like beckham" by throwing it. Won't happen. This is yet another example of soccer fans trying to equate two completely different cir stances.

And to have a good major league curveball, you need to generate a spin rate of at least 2500rpm. If you tried that, your UCL would snap. The leg muscles and tendons are nowhere near as fragile, allowing for much easier power generation.

[Chris]

Damn you got a point there - soccer nets are big AF and they still end in 0-0 ties Probably the easiest goal to score on in all of sports and they still struggle

[Expert]

Can't imagine him doing this

[Chris]

Hardest thing to do in all of sports is hit a baseball consistently.

[Mitch]

So citing one of the best bukkakeball players, why not compare it to the diving catches in beisbol? little more impressive tbh, tiny ball going probably 20-30 feet per second, diving to catch it.