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    shady stuff. I have no problem calling it unethical.

    you think there should be an investigation, what laws do you think Black Cube is breaking in the US?

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    shady stuff. I have no problem calling it unethical.

    you think there should be an investigation, what laws do you think Black Cube is breaking in the US?
    Espionage for one. Especially if they were hired by Trump like the allegations are made out to be.

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    Towards the end, having their kids names is just creepy.

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    Espionage for one. Especially if they were hired by Trump like the allegations are made out to be.
    Which law related to espionage is Black Cube breaking, in your opinion?

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    Oppo research is not calling up someone under a different iden y to gather information, or to discredit. Google what black ops is.
    There's not a clear line, but there is a key distinction: black ops are generally actions of a government or the military not attributable to the same.

    Trump qua private citizen (which as a candidate, he was) using a private intelligence firm to dig for dirt on political opponents isn't in the same category as the USG or the US military doing it.

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    There's not a clear line, but there is a key distinction: black ops are generally actions of a government or the military not attributable to the same.

    Trump qua private citizen (which as a candidate, he was) using a private intelligence firm to dig for dirt on political opponents isn't in the same category as the USG or the US military doing it.
    Often black ops. a secret mission or campaign carried out by a military, governmental, or other organization,typically one in which the organization conceals or denies its involvement

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    It is not confined to just government or military. Let's say Trump did hire them. Oh yes you can believe Trump hiring a foreign intelligence firm to spy on Americans to undermine and discredit US policy and foreign relations is definitely a big ing deal. You keep saying "Private". They were Foreign. A Foreign firm. Not American.

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    not sure why Black Cube being foreign makes such a big difference. had the firm been domestic it would have been kosher?

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    Often black ops. a secret mission or campaign carried out by a military, governmental, or other organization, typically one in which the organization conceals or denies its involvement

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    It is not confined to just government or military. Let's say Trump did hire them. Oh yes you can believe Trump hiring a foreign intelligence firm to spy on Americans to undermine and discredit US policy and foreign relations is definitely a big ing deal. You keep saying "Private". They were Foreign. A Foreign firm. Not American.
    OP of a thread led Trump hired Israeli black ops on page 2 now reduced to playing well let’s just say Trump did hire them hypotheticals.


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    not sure why Black Cube being foreign makes such a big difference. had the firm been domestic it would have been kosher?
    By Trump hiring them and using a foreign firm to discredit Americans is a little bit more obvious that there was intent to try and change US foreign policy before he was even in office. BTW, who pulled out of the Iran deal?

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    OP of a thread led Trump hired Israeli black ops on page 2 now reduced to playing well let’s just say Trump did hire them hypotheticals.

    Wouldn't be laughing to hard with your FBI spying claims

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    it would be just as reasonable to presume Israel asked Black Cube to do it a solid, but you don't hear anyone saying that,

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    it would be just as reasonable to presume Israel asked Black Cube to do it a solid, but you don't hear anyone saying that,
    So Black Cube could just say it was Israel. But they won't even say who publicly. This is also the second story now accusing of Trump being involved.

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    Just a weird way to go about discrediting a multilateral agreement.

    going after the housewife

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    lol djohn

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    Apparentl,y Wash DC and suburbs populated by DC people are saturated with cell phone stingers. Who's running them?

    Trash refuses to use a secure phone

    I remember Obama whining back in 08/09 about have to give up his beloved Blackberry for a secure, like serious adults do.

    Trash, otoh, lives by made-up solipsistic law unto himself, until he decides to break them, and he always does, along with his promises.

    Trash's only immutable law is self-aggrandizement/self-enrichment.

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    lmao at all you losers circle jerking each other over this

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    same strategy.

    If Repugs can "prove" the Iran deal negotiators "illegit" or criminal or conflicted, then the Iran deal is illegit

    Same tactic used to prove Mueller, etc conflicted, illegit, so his investigation of Trash's crimes is illegit, must stop
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 05-26-2018 at 04:47 PM.

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    By Trump hiring them and using a foreign firm to discredit Americans is a little bit more obvious that there was intent to try and change US foreign policy before he was even in office. BTW, who pulled out of the Iran deal?
    one way discredit policy is to dish dirt on the messengers. what's the big deal?

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    same strategy.

    If Repugs can "prove" the Iran deal negotiators "illegit" or criminal or conflicted, then the Iran deal is illegit

    Same tactic used to prove Mueller, etc conflicted, illegit, so his investigation of Trash's crimes is illegit, must stop
    why do you want any type of deal with iran? ing traitor.

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    why do you want any type of deal with iran? ing traitor.
    Do you want a deal with North Korea?

    Trump does.

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    Do you want a deal with North Korea?

    Trump does.
    anything to stop them from creating nukes. sure. iran otoh can burn in !

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    anything to stop them from creating nukes. sure. iran otoh can burn in !
    You don't want to stop Iran from creating nukes?

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    thought he meant NK

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    What a turn of events for the spygate crew
    So, you're citing a guy who is whining about being discredited?
    And that's your OP?
    Today's chumpette.

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