Houston Rockets have a better organization than the Spurs.

[Raven]

... so "assets" Morey is about the players not the corporate..

[DPG21920]

Exactly. Morey has gotten into hot water by literally doing the opposite of what OP is saying. He doesn’t value continuity, relationships and has eroded plenty of goodwill by the way he runs things.

Doesn’t mean he’s bad; far from it. He’s damn talented and smart. But OP is just trolling anyways.

But I do agree, there is a fine line in loyalty and holding on a bit too long and what Morey does which is views players a stocks and not people.

Between the two strategies, it’s hard to argue HOU has done better with their philosophy than SA though and ultimately results matter.

[GB20]

The rockets lost paul. They were on the way to winning a ring.

The fact of the matter is that the rockets know modern culture. The spurs dont.

And the spurs beat them last year in the playoff without kawhi and tony.

[DPG21920]

In the past 5 years:

SA (going in reverse): 1st round, WCF, Semi’s, 1st round, NBA Champs
HOU (going in reverse): WCF, Semi’s, 1st round, WCF, 1st round

So no matter how you slice things and if you care about results vs trolling, nothing HOU has done as resulted in more than SA has done and that is just modern history (past 5 years) since GS rose to prominence

[superbigtime]

Riiiight.
I do agree that their philosophy is 'modern' in that they fully embrace the trend of one on one chuck ball.

[Poolboy5623]

Had their players stopped shooting all those 3s and actually attacked the hoop, they might be playing tomorrow night.....but carry on..

[ECOV]

And the spurs beat them last year in the playoff without kawhi and tony.

[SpursDynasty85]

And who's responsible for acquiring those two flawed stars?

What was the alternative? They still won games and contended. It doesn't work he moves on the next one. You can fault some of his moves but his ability to be creative and make improvements each year have been impressive.

[Spur|n|Austin]

And yet they can't win .

/thread

[SpursDynasty85]

I'm a die hard Spurs fan but you have to recognize the powerhouse Houston Rockets have built. Their arena is INCREDIBLE, they have the best GM in the NBA, and the Houston Market is very good and getting bigger every second. Houston is the most diversified metropolitan in the US as well. *negative is that they have a Super Star that plays bball in a way that could be ruining the NBA (look for sissy fouls instead of playing tough) but we had Bruce Bowen who injured players and we cheered him on like crazy. Can't blame Houston too much for that. If Spurs want to see GS in the western conference finals again it will have to go through the Rockets for the next few years likely. With Popovich nearing retirement, big 3 almost out the door, and this Kawhi drama, Spurs might be heading into very lean times moving forward. Let's hope ownership stays strong!!

[exstatic]

What was the alternative? They still won games and contended. It doesn't work he moves on the next one. You can fault some of his moves but his ability to be creative and make improvements each year have been impressive.

So, he makes moves year to year, and yet has done no better than RC. Got it. You like flashy moves, even if they don't pan out.

[tenbeersbold]

What was the alternative? They still won games and contended. It doesn't work he moves on the next one. You can fault some of his moves but his ability to be creative and make improvements each year have been impressive.

Sorry but after watching Frauden quit last year against the Spurs in the PO's
I'd have traded him ASAP,a loser always... sorry thems the facts

[SpursDynasty85]

So, he makes moves year to year, and yet has done no better than RC. Got it. You like flashy moves, even if they don't pan out.

Lol. Well Buford is still top notch too. Just trying to state the obvious that Houston is a good franchise in today's NBA no need to pretend they aren't. With Buford I wonder how much of the mistakes were his fault or him having to listen to Pop. Either way both GMs are good. I'll just leave it at that for you.

[Budkin]

Ryan Anderson making Mills:Pau look like steals

No youth at all to build around.

Salary cap with no ring and the same amount of WCF as SA the past 4 years.

[SpursDynasty85]

Sorry but after watching Frauden quit last year against the Spurs in the PO's
I'd have traded him ASAP,a loser always... sorry thems the facts

No you wouldn't. Those decisions aren't easily made. Just like Aldridge couldn't be traded. Harden turned in an MVP year the year after and could argue for screwed out of a ring by the refs. I dont like him and never will but you dont trade harden unless you can get a Kawhi Leonard, Lebron James, AD, or Kevin Durant. None of which he could've gotten.

[John B]

CP3 leaving early mad after watching his team squandered 15 pts at home in the game of his life. Yes he’s very happy.

[diego]

T W E N T Y - T W O P E R C E N T

..... is what our brick specialists (Green, Bertans, Forbes) shot from 3 in the playoffs

rockets vs GS compared to SAS
+1.6 PPG +.007% FG +.016%3 +.018% TS +.7 ORTG

What an amazing offensive difference! I wonder if these stats would change if kawhi played and harden didn't...

[Clipper Nation]

Just wait until they give CP0 the Fatty Mills loyalty contract times infinity. They already obscenely overpaid Frauden. And just wait until they choke in the playoffs a couple more times and CP0 starts using his teammates as scapegoats - just like he did in LA.

The Celtics and Jazz are great organizations. I'd list the Sixers too, but the Colangelo burner account thing hurts their image right now. In contrast, the Rockets are just thirsty for "stars."

[SpursDynasty85]

Just wait until they give CP0 the Fatty Mills loyalty contract times infinity. They already obscenely overpaid Frauden. And just wait until they choke in the playoffs a couple more times and CP0 starts using his teammates as scapegoats - just like he did in LA.

The Celtics and Jazz are great organizations. I'd list the Sixers too, but the Colangelo burner account thing hurts their image right now. In contrast, the Rockets are just thirsty for "stars."

You dont think the Rockets wouldve won if they had a healthy CP3 or if the refs didn't blatantly favor the warriors? Admittedly I was cheering against the Rockets but game 7 was obvious and CP3 was balling until of course again a stupid hamstring injury. Sucks for them. Seemed like the best chance they ever had.

[jmard5]

Don't feed the trolls.

[JPB]

It was Rockettes chance this year. They were on a mission, with Beard and Cliff having lots to prove, Kawhard out and the Dubs vulnerable. But you can't be on a mission every year, specially after losing like that.

They (Morey) sacrificed core players and took a risk on an injury riddled, back end of his prime CP3 that cynically backfired the hard way. Now they're facing another dilemma on resigning Paul for another 5 years and whatever crazy money his agent asks, or letting him go and having nothing to show for their trade.

Add a few role players asking soon for a bigger payday, and aging roster and no real assets (+ that terrible Ryno contrat) and you can see them getting back in the pack soon. Even Harden getting traded or asking to be.

Morey was very close to get his ass moved the last couple of years. Another empty year and he could be gone next summer.

[Clipper Nation]

You dont think the Rockets wouldve won if they had a healthy CP3 or if the refs didn't blatantly favor the warriors? Admittedly I was cheering against the Rockets but game 7 was obvious and CP3 was balling until of course again a stupid hamstring injury. Sucks for them. Seemed like the best chance they ever had.

I've seen CP0 choke too many times in the playoffs to assume he wouldn't have choked in Games 6 or 7. And I think the ref excuse is being overused. Frauden not getting all his usual flop calls is a good thing. It's not the Warriors' fault that Frauden still doesn't have any other dimensions to his game when he's not getting the bogus whistles. The refs didn't make the Rockets brick a million threes in a row either.

The Rockets benefitted from injuries too, btw. The Jazz series would have been a lot different if Utah's guards had all stayed healthy.

[Russ]

5-2. Game, set, match.

[Joseph Kony]

Other than CP3 asking to be traded to Houston because the Clippers were trash, Houston hasnt really attracted a big FA. That Ryan Anderson contract is awful. and their offense is gimmicky. need to give them a few more years of success before making this proclamation tbh. we've only been garbage for 1 year

[tholdren]

Don't feed the trolls.

Yes