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eyupWe could've had 13 14 and Tobias
they weren't on the table
eyupWe could've had 13 14 and Tobias
but purdle....
goddamn. prescientGot no first round pick
kept the Gasol and Mills contracts
got no young prospect
RV Drunkford fluffers working overtime to polish this turd lmfao. Our big 3 consists of Aldridge, Derozan, and Gay. The playoffs aren't ready for us!
Getting Siakam was never a realistic option..can't even envision a scenario where Ujiri would have included him in this deal..
Kawhi shouldn't have been an option for Ujiri yet, here we are....
What if we had offered to let them keep DeRozan if they had given us Siakam instead?
Obviously they wouldn’t do it now knowing what they know. But maybe they would’ve been willing to do it then.
In hindsight, we should’ve made the deal OG, Siakam, Poeltl, plus a first round pick for Kawhi. Obviously the Raptors would never do that deal now knowing what they know. But they may have been willing to do it then—the prospect of teaming Kawhi with DeRozan and Lowry may have been too tantalizing to pass up.
Kawhi was a 1-year rental coming from a team that had no leverage against him..
Out of curiosity, as I never watched Raptors games, what’s the deal with wanting Siakam? Was it because of potential or flashes he shown last year? Or was he actually producing for them, as well as showing flashes?
They knew then what they know now. They didn't want DeRozan. He was a flat out salary dump. Toronto also couldn't trade Siakem straight up for Kawhi because Leonard made too much money.
Dumping DeRozan's deal was the biggest part of this trade for Masai..he was able to dump that contract, while acquiring a superstar for 1 year as a way to save face with the many fans and media that would kill him for trading DD(which did occur and looks really stupid in hindsight)..it was house money for him..
Ujiri loves Siakam, can't imagine any way he would have given him up for a 1-year rental, knowing the Spurs didn't have any leverage after Kawhi sabotaged his trade value..
New Orleans has no leverage with Anthony Davis. Let's see what kind of return he gets.
New Orleans may not have played it the same way had the Kawhi situation not occurred just months earlier..
He’s getting the most improved player award. He’s better than anyone on the spurs roster right now
Siakam would have made the trade digestible.
Siakam was a bench player for the Raps last year. He played in 81 games but only started 5. He didn't look nearly as desirable a player as he looks now.
Ppg last year, 7.3
This year, 16.9.
Free throw % last year, .621
This year, .785.
3pt % last year, .220
This year, .369.
Huge improvements.
Yeah, no I got that. I was just curious, why people wanted him before the trade, potential + flashes or if he was actually producing for them last year. But man, would’ve been really nice had they gotten him in that deal.
So potential then, got it. Boy, that trade would’ve been awesome had they gotten the same
package plus Siakam. God, I can’t wait for this draft. As a spurfan, I can’t really root for the dubs. But since I’m a spurfan, I will, because Kawhi.
Pop and RC should get nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for this generosity they've shown to the Toronto Raptors.. So selfless to gift them the best player in basketball for 3 role players
they have more leverage than the Spurs had because AD is healthy while Kawhi was healthy but everybody thought he was hurt and there were big concerns about his health
Siakam, OG and Poeltl for Kawhi doesn't work salary wise. I don't think Ujiri wanted to give up Siakam. I think he wanted to dumb DeRozan and the Spurs wanted to pair him up with Kawhi and Aldridge, but since Kawhi wanted out they traded him for DeMar. There were rumors that the Spurs were getting another star player before they decided to trade Leonard.
Siakam or OG are the 2 players you would want to replace a wing with elite defense. Getting Poeltl instead was really disappointing.
The problem with DeRozan is that if you split his 28 million on 2 elite role players, you'll probably get the same production with better defense and better spacing
Disagree.Dumping DeRozan's deal was the biggest part of this trade for Masai..he was able to dump that contract, while acquiring a superstar for 1 year as a way to save face with the many fans and media that would kill him for trading DD(which did occur and looks really stupid in hindsight
Ujiri loves Siakam, can't imagine any way he would have given him up for a 1-year rental, knowing the Spurs didn't have any leverage after Kawhi sabotaged his trade value..
You have Kawhi.
You wait for a better offer.
But let's say dumping DD was the primary objective...
So Spurs eat the worse, contract, trade the best player by far even if coming off injury... And best future asset they get is a middling pick?!
How does that make anything better for this deal?!
This has NOTHING TO DO WITH Lakers its simply a bad trade despite DD helping Spurs make playoffs... Plus now even Danny Green is knocking down shots and defending... Just indefensible
But if this ends the Warriors run thank God...
I like being the last team to three peat
Warriors may come back but without KD they in legitimate trouble and now Iggy is hurt too
The last year of the "injury" was all fake so he could get the out of there. That's the main problem in trust. He's just as healthy as he was for the entire last year he was out.
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