Kawhi 27.5 PPG 2.5 APG 40% FG vs DeRozan 28 PPG 6.5 APG 48% FG

[Chinook]

I do think people are starting to realize what I was saying last year about Leonard's affect on the offense. The team needed a true focal point, and it's really hard to wings to do that unless they play like bigs or play like guards. Leonard didn't do either. He played like a wing. He could get his, but him scoring didn't really leverage the defense at all. Parker penetrated. Aldridge drew double-teams. It's going to be a real sore spot to think how close the team might have been to having Leonard, Aldridge and DeRozan all at the same time. I think that trio could have legitimately won the West if they could gel.

[RC_Drunkford]

I do think people are starting to realize what I was saying last year about Leonard's affect on the offense. The team needed a true focal point, and it's really hard to wings to do that unless they play like bigs or play like guards. Leonard didn't do either. He played like a wing. He could get his, but him scoring didn't really leverage the defense at all. Parker penetrated. Aldridge drew double-teams. It's going to be a real sore spot to think how close the team might have been to having Leonard, Aldridge and DeRozan all at the same time. I think that trio could have legitimately won the West if they could gel.

Murray or White/Derozan/Kawhi/Gay/LA win les 100% Warriors wouldn't stand a chance

[Hoops Czar]

a ball has only 1 side

The ball doesn't have sides, it's round. Just ask Kyrie.

[Hoops Czar]

I do think people are starting to realize what I was saying last year about Leonard's affect on the offense. The team needed a true focal point, and it's really hard to wings to do that unless they play like bigs or play like guards. Leonard didn't do either. He played like a wing. He could get his, but him scoring didn't really leverage the defense at all. Parker penetrated. Aldridge drew double-teams. It's going to be a real sore spot to think how close the team might have been to having Leonard, Aldridge and DeRozan all at the same time. I think that trio could have legitimately won the West if they could gel.

How were they going to pay for DeRozen while giving Leonard the supermax that he deserves? Don't say trading away Pau Gasol because Toronto would just hang up the phone.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'd rate Demar as a 9 offensively, Kawhi as a 7.5. Kawhi is awesome in iso-ball, and can put a team on his back and score some points, but he really isn't a playmaker and the offense goes a little stagnant around him.

Defensively, though, you've got Kawhi as a 9 and Demar as a 4...maybe a 5. That's where the Spurs are going to suffer a bit.

And Pop can't ask DeRozan to go 45 minutes. He was gassed last night.

[bic50]

LOL Kawhitter

Salty

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Kawhi is going to come out on top statistically, but it's not as big of a downgrade as we thought it would be.

Oh yes it is, DeRozan always chokes in crunch and is awful defensively

[in2deep]

The ball doesn't have sides, it's round. Just ask Kyrie.

[in2deep]

I'd rate Demar as a 9 offensively, Kawhi as a 7.5. Kawhi is awesome in iso-ball, and can put a team on his back and score some points, but he really isn't a playmaker and the offense goes a little stagnant around him.

Defensively, though, you've got Kawhi as a 9 and Demar as a 4...maybe a 5. That's where the Spurs are going to suffer a bit.

And Pop can't ask DeRozan to go 45 minutes. He was gassed last night.

agree with most

to be fair Kawhi cannot even play 35 minutes himself.

[TDMVPDPOY]

kawhi is just warming up now g etting back into bball shape, he get there with the efficiency

but his defense though looks sloppy man, if u watch the games, its like he barely asserts himself on defense, late running around under/over screens chasing his man, not reachin in for steals or anything... his conserving alot of energy by just trying to keep up with the opponent like his really playing defense... but his not

[Seventyniner]

I'd rate Demar as a 9 offensively, Kawhi as a 7.5. Kawhi is awesome in iso-ball, and can put a team on his back and score some points, but he really isn't a playmaker and the offense goes a little stagnant around him.

Defensively, though, you've got Kawhi as a 9 and Demar as a 4...maybe a 5. That's where the Spurs are going to suffer a bit.

And Pop can't ask DeRozan to go 45 minutes. He was gassed last night.

Fair on offense, but the defensive disparity is more like 10 to 3. It would be huge if DeRozan can get to a 5 or 6 by mid-season.

[RD2191]

Lmao. Kawhi is an absolute beast. Demar isn't half the player Kawhi is. Now Kawhi may be a huge quitting got but that's another subject.

[RD2191]

kawhi is just warming up now g etting back into bball shape, he get there with the efficiency

but his defense though looks sloppy man, if u watch the games, its like he barely asserts himself on defense, late running around under/over screens chasing his man, not reachin in for steals or anything... his conserving alot of energy by just trying to keep up with the opponent like his really playing defense... but his not

Defense is overrated in today's NBA tbh. As long as he can come up with some clutch plays on D when it matters then he should be good to go. I think his days of being a dpoy candidate are over.

[gambit1990]

Oh yes it is, DeRozan always chokes in crunch and is awful defensively

[DarrinS]

Raptors are 4-0

[Brunodf]

Raptors are 4-0

In the east though, there's only 3 teams there that would make the playoffs in the west

[HarlemHeat37]

In the east though, there's only 3 teams there that would make the playoffs in the west

what year is this?

[gambit1990]

demar is an all star... kawhi is the 2019 mvp.

[Barfunk]

Murray or White/Derozan/Kawhi/Gay/LA win les 100% Warriors wouldn't stand a chance

Lmao @ your username and avatar

[RC_Drunkford]

Lmao @ your username and avatar

wait til you read my basketball takes

[offset formation]

Jacob is 22. We also got a 1st rounder btw. Those are worth a lot now adays.

Yep. At face value, PATFO did remarkably well given the hole Kawhrisis and his butt ing uncle tried painting them into.

[BlackAndWhite]

Kawad got shut down by Harrison and Matt barnes

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I'd rate Demar as a 9 offensively, Kawhi as a 7.5. Kawhi is awesome in iso-ball, and can put a team on his back and score some points, but he really isn't a playmaker and the offense goes a little stagnant around him.

Defensively, though, you've got Kawhi as a 9 and Demar as a 4...maybe a 5. That's where the Spurs are going to suffer a bit.

And Pop can't ask DeRozan to go 45 minutes. He was gassed last night.

Come playoff time though Kawhi on offense >>>>>>> DeMar

There is a pretty big gap between the two, and I'd 100% take Kawhi over DeMar in late game situations.


I mean the stats speak for themselves in crunch time games:

[skin27]

They are basically the same on offense..derozan a little bit better though...while kawhi Is way better on defense..

[313]

Demar hasn't had an offensive season better than Kawhi since 2015, and it's not close. PER, eFG%, TS%, Offensive WS, Offensive box +/-, VORP etc

I like Demar, though, I'm glad we got him.