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Yeah, that's how I understood your post. I have doubts that they can play much above .500 in any month. Playing from behind is not this team's strength on the court in an individual game or in the schedule.
bounce back, for me, meaning trying to get back to around .500 because i think they are going to drop below it by the end of the month.
Yeah, that's how I understood your post. I have doubts that they can play much above .500 in any month. Playing from behind is not this team's strength on the court in an individual game or in the schedule.
I don't think people should be going nuts over a road loss to Sacramento. I know 25 years of being a le contender has put our expectations sky high, but this isn't a team that's going to compete. They're still fun to watch but there is no David Robinson, Tim Duncan, or Kawhi Leonard on this team any more, and they're going to lose a lot of the time when they play good teams now. We have had a great run as Spurs fans and honestly it's still pretty good with players like Demar and Lamarcus who can put points on the board. I'm just enjoying the ride having a team that's still fun to watch.
They are not fun to watch at all. They are a midrange chucking team that lack any watchable players. This is the most boring Spurs team to watch since 2004.
Of course we know you aren't going to find any Spurs team exciting.
We lost to the Magic, Heat, and the Kings. If we can't start putting some of these easy teams away then we are in trouble.
Of course we know you aren't going to find any Spurs team exciting.
I enjoyed several Spurs teams over the year, I just loathe this midrange/iso era of the team. But I agree with you. We've had it good for 25 years, we are due for some down years.
We are not a good team I don’t want to win cause then we will retain players that we should move. Ie. Mills, Forbes, Gasol, Poindexter, Poodle. Based on our current losses and the health of Gay and Gasol I am thinking we get the 10th pick.
Now we we just gotta hope KY does his thing and misses about 20 games which has our pick between 20 and 24 and we
can reload through draft and by trading or releasing above players.
THIS. I don't understand why people think it's fine having Forbes as a starter. He shouldn't start for a contending team. He shouldn't start for an average NBA team. He shouldn't even start for the Suns.
People want to treat this basketball thing like it's rocket science.
^Saddest thing is, Booker notwithstanding, Forbes would never start on the Suns.
This post is wrong-headed. GS totally staggers their stars. No one is complaining about Pop playing White too many minutes. It's that the minutes he plays aren't being used well -- and yes, not being used as other teams with multiple options use their players. DeRozan shouldn't be leading the league in minutes in his age and with his history of fading in the playoffs. Make sure he's fresh. When there wasn't another lead guard available, it was unavoidable. But now that White has returned, you want to get DeRozan down to 32-35 mpg, with all 13-16 of those minutes without him having White on the court. The same concept is true with Aldridge and Gay.
Plus GS's best players outside of Green are shooters. Of course, they can fit together.
Sorry, wrong.
Look at their staring lineup.
Look at their minutes played (when healthy)
Not rocket science.
Every team staggers.
Most still play their best players the majority of their minutes together.
You're getting yourself confused. Staggering and benching aren't the same thing. Curry and Durant play separately plenty. Harden and Paul do the same thing. Just because Derrick is one of their best players doesn't mean he should be playing 93 percent of his minutes with DeRozan. It's even more absurd when you consider that White and DeRozan combine for 61/96 possible minutes played. There are a combined 35 minutes where one could play without the other, but nope. For GS, Durant and Curry have shared the court for 345/399 total minutes for Steph (who's hurt and has thus played fewer minutes total than KD). 87 percent may not sound much different, but consider that those two players combine for 68/96 minutes. The most minutes they combine for, the more they necessarily have to play together. Harden has played 168/246 of his minutes with Paul (in games where both played). That's 68 percent.
There's no reason for this particular minutes distribution. Despite your attempt to make this seem obvious, most teams don't actually play their entire starting unit and entire bench unit as much as Pop does. It's been a really weird thing about him for years now.
Agree with Chinook. As for Pop's subs ution patterns for years, this "hockey" principle made sense because we had Manu who could lead the second-unit. Now we don't so Pop has to adjust. Sometimes (not so much in this game, but in most previous games) it's painful to watch line-ups like Mills-Forbes-Belli-Bertans-Poeltl or Mills-QPon-Belli-Bertans-Pau while both DeMar and White sit
Story of the game: Fox, Hield and Bogdanovic took turkns bukkakeing Spurs crappy guards. Kings have improved talent and coaching wise. Spurs are definitely letting White learn on the job (which is probably necessary as he can help the Forbes/Mills situation).
Definitely not what we should be doing with our best scorer/passer.
It's going to be trial and error for Pop and a lot of times its not going to look pretty. But 1 poster hit the nail on the head with something that irritates the heck out of me. And its a player with quick trigger out of balance shots. I mean cmon, that is not winning basketball. Seriously. Low BBIQ there. Looking at you Marco.
What happened to passing from Good to Great?
How about at least 3 players touch the ball on each possession before you shoot mentality (unless you're on a fast break OR you've been insanely hot from 3 that game)
How about taking advantage of mismatches? No reason to be forcing a shot with 15+ seconds on the shot clock unless it is a high percentage shot.
I think just playing disciplined, having smarter possessions, not forcing up wild shots for no reason would help drastically. Even though we have a limited Roster, i still wish Pop would immediately pull a player when forcing up a stupid shot. Or making a terrible defensive play.
Dumb basketball play irritates me more than anything. If they have a great possession where the ball movement is great but they miss the shot, oh well nothing you can do. But when someone forces up a shot and it misses, its frustrating.
Yesterday Patty steals the ball, throws it 30ft ahead of him straight to a Kings player for no reason. What are you doing? Why? seriously Why? Why the rush?
Did you miss last season?
Why are so many still stuck on outdated positional designations? DeRozan "moving from SG to SF" doesn't make any difference. He functionally plays the exact same role on both sides of the ball. He's a wing, who should ideally defend stationary, off ball wings.
I don't buy that he's an awkward fit with White either. What's happening is, 1) Inevitable regression to the mean. 2) He probably subconsciously somewhat let his guard down when White returned, thinking he wouldn't have to do quite as much of the heaving lifting with another creator around.
I enjoyed several Spurs teams over the year, I just loathe this midrange/iso era of the team. But I agree with you. We've had it good for 25 years, we are due for some down years.
The problem is, a sizable portion of their demise was self inflicted.
This was two so-so teams going back and forth without any domination by one. The excitement value of a close game was there, but arguing about players skill sets is pointless for the most part, since too many of them have serious deficiencies as NBA players. I found myself going down the roster with opinions about all the players, but they are what they are. They may play some good games, win some close ones, win some they should lose, etc---but ultimately this is far from a super compe ive team.
The one player I'm going to cal out is Poertle. Looking at the highlight films I originally thought Poertle might be a good addition immediately. Now that he is getting some burn with injuries to others, it looks like he has nothing except some good parts, hands, hustle, height, but they were sewn together by Dr. Freakenstein. His parts simply don't work together smoothly or skillfully. I don't know why. He really needs a Ginobilli type to get him into the game offensively. Meanwhile he is my choice for poster boy on why highlight films are worthless. If they can't did up a few times when a player makes a good play after three years, then maybe he really isn't a NBA player after all. I hope to be surprised.
White off the bench. Derozan handling the ball with the first unit.
Hopefully pop is still figuring out lineups There was a 5 of white, derozon , poindexter, Cunningham & Aldridge in the second quarter that got the team rolling on both ends.
Agree about Pourtle. Looks lost on offense provides a little offensive rebounding but not much else .
The other positive. Rudy looked great. If he can remain healthy he will end up being the spurs third main scoring option.
Last edited by Slippy; 11-14-2018 at 04:48 AM.
Grades seem a bit high for a loss; but I didn't watch the game.
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