They play Paddy out of spite. See where it's gotten them?
People were heads over heels about Derrick "I'm a 29th pick with 29th pick talent" White. He comes back, losing streak. There's more correlation to him having a negative impact on the team than being any better than a 29th pick generally ends up being- a fringe player at the end of the bench.
I really don't get it. The second he was given the reins to the team he collapses.
We need to move on from Cunningham and Pondexter imo. Sign Blossomgame and give him and Walker rotation minutes when he returns. We won’t be WORSE. We might not be better but I won’t be as frustrating let the young guys figure things out maybe we make the playoffs maybe we don’t, but I can live with it either way. I don’t understand why Cunningham is getting minutes over a young wing in our G league. Maybe he’s better than Blossomgame, but I still don’t think he’s a rotation player in the NBA so at least see what the young guys can do. Pop knows this, I doubt we go an entire season with Cun in the rotation.
And thats not an attack on Cunningham, he’s given effort and he’s filled in admirably but he’s not a wing and at best he’s a backup big on a bad team
Was sad not to see Derrick White come back into the game. It seems he has been itching to get his offense going while being a pg. I don't think he is selfish in anyway but he feels he can contribute more and he did so at the cost of some important minutes in the game but he was benched for good too early I think. I imagine he will get the start and that puts things in perspective and the fact I'm sure Pop considered last night's game very important since it was an obvious winnable game in our time of struggling. Patty was good and showed why the front office and Pop put their trust in him but they need to realize the limitations he along with Belli brings playing extended minutes.
His grades have to be based on expectations if you've followed his grading so far. His grades for scrubs are extremely generous otherwise.
His wife died last summer.
No, Pop's unwillingness to play someone -- after they've made a commitment to that player -- even if he's struggling, is garbage.
Looks like Billy Bean and Art Howe out there.
Well it is only mid-November.
Clutch time with Mills, Forbes, DeRozan, Belinelli, Aldridge. Size matters:
Shail G Alexander scores mid jumper literally over Patty Mills (good position to contest but being too small to completely disturb the shooter)
Aldridge must contest Williams' three in a p&r and Spurs lose defensive rebound (Forbes just touches it) and have to foul Harrell, who misses both FT
Gallinari posts up Mills, Spurs double and SGAlexander shoots free a corner three. Misses but Clippers get the rebound.
Game tied, Williams ISO, Forbes contests ok but again, he's too short to really disturb Williams who scores a three.
109-110, 36 seconds: Gallinari (6'10") desperately dribbling 1on1 vs Cunningham (6'8"): gets into the paint, uses his body spinning towards the rim and Cunningham fouls him. Scores both.
DeRozan misses the ball, Spurs have to foul, Gallo scores again. Game over.
Imagine that sequence replacing one, if not two, of our three guards (can't replace DeRozan) for tall guards, wings or forwards. Spurs are getting the W.
Mills and Forbes played hard and scored well but you can't play good defense vs talented players and secure the rebound without size.
In a timeout in the fourth quarter, Popovich said "Stops and boards!". I hear you, coach.
Yesterday's Spurs performance doesn't speak well about player's focus vs Sacramento and Phoenix. I watched a completely different level of commitment. The outcome of the road trip wouldn't be 3 L if they had played all games with that intensity and sense of urgency. They can't allow not to play 100% every single night. They're not that good.
Spurs weren't aggresive in offense until the second quarter yesterday. It's hard to beat a tough team that it's playing well (beat Warriors and Bucks this week) when they play at home and you are trailing from the beginning.
I don't think Aldridge is disinterested. I think he's just weak mentally and not too smart. He probably thinks his offensive struggles come from his outside shooting problems when the truth is that he's not being aggressive attacking the rim. Remember last season, he bullied every team inside the paint until March. Have a look at the advanced shooting stats, where are his layups? He only shots inside when he tips the ball or gets the offensive R. He's passing too much and too early in the low post, he could try to score more often and that would even improve the spacing, easing his passes to the shooters.
I blame the coaches as well. Is Gasol the only player who can feed him high-low? Can anybody give him a ball after a P&R? Why is he running the court so many times if wings aren't giving the ball when he is trailing in good position? He looks more confortable playing from the FT line, why aren't we using more settings for him to play ISO from there?
Derrick White must continue starting and playing big minutes. He's just learning, he has to go through it. Forbes is more efficient currently, but White's potential is higher and the team needs badly somebody with his ability to pass and play defense. Patrick Beverly is tough and for sure Derrick learn a couple of things today.
Following disaster at Phoenix, Clippers game makes me feel less pessimistic. Aldridge played good defense again, Poetl is starting to show something, Marco hit a couple shots, Rudy looks good, DeRozan played well again not stinking in D and Mills stole a couple balls and made some layups. Let's take this one as a good starting point, it's the only way of winning a game in the next 9 days.
Solid takes. Would like to see you post more.
As much i feel like joining the tank the season crowd, i just can't deny the fact that i want this team to win every game they play. And what can we do to win the next one. And tanking doesn't guarantee much.
BUT with that said, i think a trade is absolutely necessary. They need to show not only the fans but DDR and other committed players that they are trying to do what they can to win with DDR. He's a great player. Gotta make it work. Whatever it takes.
https://stats.nba.com/team/161061275...sort=MIN&dir=1
The Spurs most used lineup of Aldridge, DeRozan, Cunningham, Forbes and White has a net rating of -31.8.
Offensive rating of 82.8 and defensive rating of 114.6.
ouch. lineup needs to change. we scored less than 100 in 4 straight games prior to the clippers game.https://stats.nba.com/team/161061275...sort=MIN&dir=1
The Spurs most used lineup of Aldridge, DeRozan, Cunningham, Forbes and White has a net rating of -31.8.
Offensive rating of 82.8 and defensive rating of 114.6.
a lot of it is trying to integrate white into the lineup but man we are starting out slow every game and playing from behind every game.
I hope that Rudy was just suffering from at least a stubbed toe tbh and I am being sarcastic but he should have closed the game. He’d at least grab a rebound and he was having a much better game than Marco and one could argue at least a couple of other options Pop used.
Sort of feels like that Parker Green Kawhi LMA Dedmon lineup, though at least that one was excellent defensively and wasn't a train wreck on offense by comparison.https://stats.nba.com/team/161061275...sort=MIN&dir=1
The Spurs most used lineup of Aldridge, DeRozan, Cunningham, Forbes and White has a net rating of -31.8.
Offensive rating of 82.8 and defensive rating of 114.6.
Pop is going to either have to bench White or Cunningham.
I think he wants to keep Gay off the bench and really believes in Whites so Bertans makes the most sense as a "Blair starter". Bertans is in the dog house, even though he is shooting lights out and would be a significant upgrade over Cunningham.
I think he'll either keep trotting out the same starting 5 or be forced into starting Gay again once the losses continue to pile up.
So he can get a pass for 4 years ?
If he can not handle it leave and seek help
Sounds like a man trying to force fit a square peg into a round hole and stubbornly going down with the ship whether the square peg eventually fits or not.
It is very selfish of pop can not handle being coach and keeps coaching because he can Not get over wife.
Players make more if they make all star and good stats.
Fans are spending millions watching spurs and betting on them
Sadly White looks like a re ed version of Kyle Anderson
Aldridge battled for those rebounds, so it's hard to say he was disinterested. Down the stretch, he got the team a number of second-chance attempts despite going up against three Clippers at times. I don't know what's in his head when he's shooting, though. Harrell is not push-over in the paint (folks have been confusing height for size for years now), but LMA still can't concede everything inside. That his jumper fell early might have convinced him that it was his best option, but forcing Harrell to foul or the Clippers to send help would have been a better option. , forcing it inside is ALWAYS a better option now that LMA always plays center. He's actually been pretty good at passing this year, so having him get the ball and go at the other team is a viable strategy, if he'd follow it.
Gay has arguably been the Spurs' best per-minute player. It's crazy how good he's been so far. It's like he's an item in a video game or something where his impact has to be offset by some major weakness. With a healthy Gay, the Spurs probably have a couple more wins now and a better outlook. The team has to seriously look at shutting Rudy down for a while, anything to give themselves a chance of having a healthy Gay going forward. That may not be possible, though, because Rudy has actually gotten a ton of rest recently and still can't seem to get through a whole game. This just highlights the need for a third-option level scorer to compliment Aldridge and DeRozan. Gay can do that when healthy, but he needs to take a smaller load and not play as many games clearly. Obviously, the team shouldn't do anything crazy like trade Walker or Murray for some overpaid inefficient chucker. But using that Toronto pick on an offensive player seems like a good idea.
It's becoming more apparent that White should play more of his minutes with the bench. Like he shouldn't necessarily be taking out of the starting lineup, but he should be subbed out early and have time to chill before going in and replacing DeRozan. All things considered, Beli starting wouldn't be a bad idea. He hasn't played well this year, but his metrics are actually pretty good with the other starters, and he can still space the floor. Marco and Pau work really well off each other, but Gasol may not be an option for a while as it is. DeMar and LaMarcus could use a more dynamic floor-spacer, especially if Dante inues to start.
I don't know what people expect Pop to do about Cun at this point. He doesn't have to consistently be a positive for Pop to give him minutes. It would be nice if he had legit compe ion, but he doesn't. Gay needs to come off the bench. Bertans has a target on his back and can't seem to do anything to dissuade folks from going at him, while also not providing anything or the boards. Metu is too young and Pon is too Pon. Spare me the line about how this roster is Pop's fault. We all know that. But nothing substantial is likely to change until next month, so things have to happen without big personnel moves.
Aside from Lamarsha and White the team played well
Cant ask for much more tbqh
Aldridge's effort was much better following the first or 2nd timeout in the 4th IIRC.. I'm assuming Pop or whoever said something to him, it was shortly after he allowed an open dunk and barely moved on defense on consecutive possessions..
Following that timeout, he had 3 offensive rebounds, a block and a steal in a 4-5 minute span..
so far, based on a the very small sample size from this season, forbes looks like a better PG than white does. white is starting to look like he has kyle anderson disease when it come to shrinking in the spotlight. forbes, on the other hand, appears to have some cojones.
Yeah that's exactly how I saw it happen as well. Patty Mills got mad at LMA for allowing that dunk by Harrell (you can see Patty open his arms and say something to LMA). I'm guessing someone got after his ass during the timeout and LMA got after it on the offensive boards and on defense. Looked more inspired and less sleep walking.
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