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I'll keep on dreaming, but if Wiz would take Pau and Bertrans' expiring contracts plus 1st round(s), I'd take Porter happily.
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I'll keep on dreaming, but if Wiz would take Pau and Bertrans' expiring contracts plus 1st round(s), I'd take Porter happily.
John Wall’s contract is awful. No thanks. Porter’s contract is bloated too, but it only has 2 years left after this season at least. Oubre is a bag who PATFO would never trade for/sign imo.
If Jacob didn’t suck pau would be very tradable. An expiring contract, just attach a 1 and you can get something
Wizards would probably sell RC on this Russian big man named Yakov Smirnoff they drafted in the first round a couple of years ago if the Spurs took on Walls contract.
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If Murray were healthy? It'd be obvious to me. Porter and Murray could make the team an elite defense, and Otto's shooting would make him much more viable than Cunningham has been. It's harder to say with DeJounte out. Not only would Porter require future assets, but his contract is so big that it would likely involve the team trading Gay as well. Rudy is far too valuable to the team this year, and I imagine he'll be staying for future years unless he just doesn't want to. One of the big benefits to a Porter trade would be that Gay could take a lesser role that would be better on his body. Moving him almost defeats the purpose.
As far as I know, Porter's trade kicker is irrelevant, so we talking about $26,011,913 in salary. Assuming the Spurs are willing to go into the tax (which I actually don't think they would be), that would mean the Spurs would have to come up with $20,729,530 in matching salary. Gasol counts for $16,800,000, leaving $3,929,530 more to make up. In an ideal scenario, that's Mills, or later on at least Bertans or Beli. But likely, the Wizards wouldn't want to take back even more 2019 salary. That would leave the Spurs with Cun and Pon as the ballast, which would turn the trade into a three-for-one, which is really hard to do during the season. Something like Gasol and Gay for Porter and Thomas Bryant would just be easier from their perspective. Any additional salary would incur extra incentive from the Spurs.
There are ways around it, like hoping SAC would take Bertans for free or would take Mills for cheap. If something like that can be found, I'd definitely be on board for a Porter trade. His contract isn't great, but he expires with Aldridge and DeRozan and shouldn't hurt the team's chances to re-signing their young guys. I still think this is sort of a lost season, though, so I may not be willing to pay what it would take to get Porter.
Pau is falling apart. The does it matter if he doesn't even see the floor. Ship his bum ass out. He's a fukin scrub. The only reason he looks alright is because poeltl is absolute dog . Seriously Pau.
I was thinking maybe swapping Pau and Bertrans' expiring contracts plus 1st pick(s) with Porter and big but they have Dwight and Mahinmi??.. that
Well that's certainly a lot to think about. Thanks for the write up. I appreciate all of the information. Do you think porter would fit in well with DJ and Walker?
Living in the DC area and I know these players well, I would only want Kelly Oubre or Beal. We don't have enough assets for Beal but I really like Oubre. I think his long term projections are better than Porter and keep in mind that the Wizards have had very poor coaching for his entire career. He's very athletic and could be a solid defender. His shooting needs to be improved but it's mostly due to shot selection and he has good form & elevation.
i don't want any of those 3 players.
Oubre is cheap and 22 years old. They are not moving him tbh
Yeah, you're a Spurs fan, you want scrubs.
I don't see why not. Ideally, you want someone to be an actual play-maker, though. Like he fits well with DeRozan. If Murray or Lonnie develops into a legit lead guard, Otto would work out fine. But I think of him as a bigger Danny Green. Their games aren't exactly the same, but I don't think Porter's a better enough dribbler to want him to handle the ball, and his size makes up for him not being as dynamic defensively as Green is. Whatever you think needs to happen for Danny to play his best, the same is true for Otto.
..but also there's nobody outside of Beal/Porter that I'd like. Beal isn't realistic and Porter doesn't do anything for this team long-term. i'd rather the team just be ty enough to get a higher lottery pick rather give Porter another bloated contract after this one is up.
I think they'll do so if they can't trade anyone else. Oubre is a fine enough player, but they can't make a big deal for him, and I don't see why they'd risk losing him for nothing when they're already admitting they aren't going anywhere this year.
RC is Pop’s trade broker. Pop won’t allow his Pau Gasol be traded mid-season to some lottery chasing garbage team. There is a small fraction of a percentage chance of Patty being traded. I don’t think that would happen until the offseason if ever. Deep down you all know I am right.
The move was Dejounte/Patty/1st rounder for Kemba back in August and we knew that wasn't realistic. That team at least would have been a top 3 seed in the West this season.
But of course it was a move that the front office would have been terrified of making and here we are tbh.
But.... WE are a lottery chasing garbage team...
I'd rather have a scrub for a year than John Walls 200M contract for 5 years.Yeah, you're a Spurs fan, you want scrubs.
Pretty sure that the Kemba talks died during the draft, and that it was Green/Murray/18 for Walker. If you have information to the contrary, I'd love to see it. I also think the trade was only contingent on Leonard buying back in. From what I know, I can't really hold the non-trade against the Spurs, but Walker, _____, Leonard, Gay, Aldridge is an embarrassingly good starting lineup, though if they could've found a strong defensive two-guard. If it was Mills instead of Green, that unit would be incredible, and looking back, having Tony instead of Mills would have made the bench more viable.
I'd do it for Porter.
Pau is suffering from age-related issues in his foot. We aren't guaranteed he's not facing a situation like Timmy his last year when he got knee soreness and it never quite calmed down. What if Pau's foot soreness never fully calms down? He's in a walking boot right now and doesn't have an expected date of return bc he really might just be suffering from wear and tear and age.
I am not sure what it would require though. He'd have to be included with sweeteners if he's on the verge of retiring. I like Porter for the same reasons you do, much better shooter than Oubre, who is a skinny athletic slasher who I think wouldn't fit in well with Murray, DeRozan, et. al. Porter has regressed this season, but one cannot evaluate properly the toxic locker room and the lack of motivation he could be experimenting after getting paid and playing with a couple of small ball hogs and chuckers. I recall Porter having some nice playoff games. His contract is higher than I'd like but wings get paid on the market and that is if you can even convince them to play for you. Look at Hayward and plenty mediocre ones like Wiggins.
I don't think Dante and Quincy should be the only spots the Spurs should consider trading. Bertans isn't producing or playing as much as one would think either. Fact is there are many roleplayers in the Spurs that are aiding a tank that should be tradeable if the Spurs see someone they want.
Not a big fan of John Wall at this point, I'll pass. Bradley Beal is also overrated chucker.. A glorified Nick Young.
I seen Beal play 3 times this season so far and he had tendencies to chuck shots. We already have Belineli taking that role lmao
Beal is shooting 33% from 3 on super high volume 8 3pt attempts per game. He is a bad fit next to DeRozan as that will push DeRozan to play the SF position which he's never been successful.
I can see why the Wizards are breaking up the team. They have their eye on Zion Williamson.
Let's see Lonnie play before thinking about Oubre
I mean if you can get Porter just with Pau/Patty/2nd rounder then go for it. But this team giving up any future 1st would be re ed at this point.
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