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  1. #26
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    1. Kareem
    2. Magic
    3. Wilt
    4a. Shaq
    4b. Kobe
    6. James
    Fair list I would move Bron up a bit

  2. #27
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    I'm not gonna argue Kobe because I stopped that when he retired... But Pau is a great support player an elite #2..
    But if you think he is an alpha you are trolling or don't know what it means...
    The numbers show that you jack off to Kobe to this day. Pau alpha'd the Lakers. Kobe is the most over-rated chucker of all-time. He's Wizards Jordan Plus at best, bruh.

  3. #28
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    Without Manu, Tim still would have never missed the playoffs. Without Pau carrying Rapey McRapeFace like the luggage he is, Rapey McRapeFace never wins another playoff series in his career.

    That's the difference between a Top 10 All-Timer and an over rated chucker who is borderline top 30 at best.
    If we’re talking about the spurs it’s le or nothing. POP and TD we’re either going for the ring or nothing. 30 is reaching I would say Kobe is prolly top 15. Just accept it man lol

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    The numbers show that you jack off to Kobe to this day. Pau alpha'd the Lakers. Kobe is the most over-rated chucker of all-time. He's Wizards Jordan Plus at best, bruh.
    Dude stfu, yal Niccas obsession with him is sad like some ptsd domestic violence es. He is gone... He can't hurt you no more. Let it go. Let it go.

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    Dude stfu, yal Niccas obsession with him is sad like some ptsd domestic violence es. He is gone... He can't hurt you no more. Let it go. Let it go.
    Wizards Jordan, bruh.

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    Wizards Jordan, bruh.
    Sure, I really dont care.
    I have my curent team to worry about idgaf if he is Wizards level jordan, sure ...great take!!!
    None of that makes Pau an alpha ... . we can leave Achilles out of it, doesnt mean you understand what an alpha is. if you think Pau is one.
    He is actually the opposite ...doesnt make him any less great.
    A high level #2 player who was a #1 on playoff team and #2 on two le teams just like Achilles was #2 on three before that, no shame in it.

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    KK81 mad that his name sake just isn't great as he thinks. Deal with it, move on.

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    Sure, I really dont care.
    I have my curent team to worry about idgaf if he is Wizards level jordan, sure ...great take!!!
    None of that makes Pau an alpha ... . we can leave Achilles out of it, doesnt mean you understand what an alpha is. if you think Pau is one.
    He is actually the opposite ...doesnt make him any less great.
    A high level #2 player who was a #1 on playoff team and #2 on two le teams just like Achilles was #2 on three before that, no shame in it.
    Of course pau was alpha. Youve been shown the numbers on 09 and 10. And Billups even admitted that their gameplan in 04 was for Kobe to shoot the lakers out of the series.

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    KK81 mad that his name sake just isn't great as he thinks. Deal with it, move on.
    Nope Spurfan mad that their spin doesnt work ...
    Deal with it and move on ...
    Only thing im mad at hoops-wise is that my LAkers lost to Orlando at home ...

  10. #35
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    Fair list I would move Bron up a bit
    Okay, I'm gonna make a list of players I watched in their prime


    1. Magic
    2. Shaq
    3. Kobe
    4. James
    5. Malone
    6. Nash
    7. Rodman
    8. Payton
    9. Gasol
    10. Mitch Richmond
    11. Howard
    12. Van Exel
    13. Horry
    14. Odom

  11. #36
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    Nope only on Spurstalk and the house of Gasol maybe is this even considered a narrative... Anything you have seen leadership wise from Pau the past few seasons that screams alpha?!
    Nicca please I guess the past few seasons KL as your "alpha" has you all ed up...

    Plus Kobe won playoff games post Shaq and PreGasol... Pau was getting swept so don't be obtuse.. Kobe needed Pau and sure as Gasol needed Kobe he ain't ever accomplished without him... In the NBA
    I agree MVPau has alpha talent and beta mindset. Kobe’s got beta talent and alpha mindset. They compliment each other.

    That said the entire lakers offense and defense was geared inside out to take care of their immense size advantage over other teams. It was designed around MVPau.

    And what’s the obsession about sweeps?

    There are two main reasons to be swept:
    A) your alpha is so mentally weak or your team is so young that the team folds under adversity. We saw that with the young shaq lakers or magic team;
    B) the team is so overmatched that there isn’t a reasonable way to even win a game. I think the MVPau grizzlies fall under this camp.

    If a team gets to win a few games in a series, it means that they can compete, and either just got outplayed, or the alpha doesn’t have the ability to carry the team through. Of course there are those epic moments where two alpha just duke it out and the better team wins, but those are in days with better parity. We see that with the magic vs birds and the Thomas vs Jordan games where the teams are just evenly matched.

  12. #37
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    1. Kobe
    2. Magic
    3. Kareem
    4. Shaq
    5. LeBron

    as Lakers

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    Lighten up Francis.
    Any of you guys call me Francis.....

    and I'll kill ya.

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    Lebron #1 on the list with 3 rings makes no sense.

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    Smush Parker
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    You forgot
    Chris Mihm
    Adam Morrison
    Kwame Brown

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    Lebron #1 on the list with 3 rings makes no sense.
    So to you Jerry West being on the list also makes no sense.

  17. #42
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    So to you Jerry West being on the list also makes no sense.
    Why would I think West shouldn't be on the list because I think Lebron isn't #1? That's illogical. One doesn't have anything to do with the other.

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    Bear in mind the criteria is only that they played for the Lakers at any time. Example LeBron, Robert Horry, The Mailpuss.
    As well as career/longtime Flamers like Jerry West.
    Writer must have been a hetero.
    Kirby and Aids lovers you are not going to like this.

    https://hoopshype.com/2018/07/02/los...se-history/13/
    It's too bad T-Mac never donned the P&G


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    Why would I think West shouldn't be on the list because I think Lebron isn't #1? That's illogical. One doesn't have anything to do with the other.
    Oh.
    So where would you rate LeBron and West?

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