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    Good riddance - Corker's pretzel twisting of Obama's Iran deal is akin to Roberts/Obamacare.

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    The latest hissy fit from a guy that basically only cares about himself.

    This is basically akin to the toddler that grabs the ball and goes home when doesn’t go his way.

    What a gigantic pussy, smh

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    The latest hissy fit from a guy that basically only cares about himself.

    This is basically akin to the toddler that grabs the ball and goes home when doesn’t go his way.

    What a gigantic pussy, smh
    Meltdown post.

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    Cool story...

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    Quit stealing my .
    memba det time you stole my price is right losing horn schtick


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    White House: Trump Would Accept Less Money For Border Wall

    Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney placed the offer at between Trump’s $5.7 billion request and $1.3 billion Democrats are offering.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...gEmail__122418

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    Lindsey Graham Doubles Down On Wall Funding: ‘We’re Not Going To Give In’


    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...gEmail__122418


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    The GOP Ends Its One-Party Rule In Shambles

    The government is literally shut down as Republicans get ready to hand over the House to Democrats.

    Former Rep. David Jolly (R-Fla.), who left Congress in 2017 and recently gave up his party affiliation, said the Republican Party’s unified control of government was “defined by remarkably damaging wins and complete capitulation of separation of powers.”

    "Congress spent two years behaving as a political committee of the president,

    not a branch of government empowered with independence by the Cons ution."

    ACA turned out to be far more popular than they anticipated and repealing it was far harder than expected as well ― despite controlling both chambers of Congress.

    Congress’ biggest legislative accomplishment was passing the new tax law, but it fell far short of what was promised.

    There were deep, permanent cuts for corporations, and a more modest cut for individuals that
    expires at the end of 2025.

    The tax bill was not as popular as Republicans expected, and they largely abandoned it as a campaign message.

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    y'all forgot to mention the emergency session related to cheese called just before the shutdown.

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    If our national deficit this year really is $1Trillion at a time when unemployment has been low for multiple years, then I'm not sure those corporate tax rate cuts are going to stay permanent. With an economy this strong, a well run government might even be running surpluses right now as was the case in the late 1990's.

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    Dems MUST "hold", no matter what the damage, and force Trash and the Repugs to FOLD

    Otherwise, Trash and Repugs will see that govt shutdowns "works" for them.
    That's clearly the calculation that's being made. Time is on their side to boot.

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    If our national deficit this year really is $1Trillion at a time when unemployment has been low for multiple years, then I'm not sure those corporate tax rate cuts are going to stay permanent. With an economy this strong, a well run government might even be running surpluses right now as was the case in the late 1990's.
    Democrats vote to repeal a tax cut?


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    Also the Dems would have to beat Trump in 2020.

    Who's your pick to emerge victorious from the Democratic Party clown car?

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    Also the Dems would have to beat Trump in 2020.

    Who's your pick to emerge victorious from the Democratic Party clown car?
    They are way too many possible candidates right now. Beto may be a serious contender.

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    They are way too many possible candidates right now. Beto may be a serious contender.
    Beto, like Bernie, will blocked by center-right / neoliberal / self-preserving Dem/Clinton establishment

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    Beto is a center right candidate. Just look at his voting record.

    He comes from one of the most Democratic districts in the country, and still votes with Trump 30% of the time.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pital-and-main

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    Beto, like Bernie, will blocked by center-right / neoliberal / self-preserving Dem/Clinton establishment
    After what happened last time?

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    After what happened last time?
    The habit of punching left is strongly ingrained.

    The first casualty is policies popular in the party and outside of it, the second is centrist/corporate Dem candidates in general elections.

    There are good reasons the Dems lost 1000 seats nationwide in the last decade, favoring the priorities of the corporate donor class and other rich folks over the broader public is one of them.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 12-24-2018 at 01:49 PM.

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    Beto is a center right candidate. Just look at his voting record.

    He comes from one of the most Democratic districts in the country, and still votes with Trump 30% of the time.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pital-and-main
    Honestly I hate articles like this. A congressman's voting record on bills that contain certain legislation is not necessarily a predictor of his potential platform in a different office, particularly the office of President. There's more nuance to voting on legislation. You have to consider what may have been in it for his district.

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    (No offense to you, as you didn't write it.)

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    After what happened last time?
    yes Beto or Bernie can't break the power of the Dem establishment

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    That's fair, a local voting record might not predict what a national candidate runs on.

    Likewise, his/her campaign might not faithfully reflect the priorities of the officer, once elected.

    Looking at the voting record might not be reliably predictive, but the significance isn't zero either. The hunch that Beto is a malleable centrist rather than a committed populist might explain the enthusiasm two years away from the election, inside the beltway and among big money donors.

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    memba det time you stole my price is right losing horn schtick

    No, but I do remember the time you told me the Cons ution gives us separation of Church and State.

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    What is the First Amendment, Alex?

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    No, but I do remember the time you told me the Cons ution gives us separation of Church and State.
    it does

    The First Amendment includes:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
    then Thomas Jefferson said

    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.
    The Supreme Court has taken that exact quote from Thomas Jefferson and said this:

    Coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment thus secured.
    In another case, the Supreme Court also said this:

    In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect "a wall of separation between church and State."

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