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  1. #26
    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
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    Had we had this going for us in 2002/2003, the Expos would have been ours.
    I don't know. MLB had a huge hard on for DC to get a team.
    and DC supported them very well, so the town deserves a team.


    Will be interesting, to see if next year the Nationals can improve, and if they dont, how the support will go.

  2. #27
    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    What about Pace? A billionaire who has nothing to do.

  3. #28
    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
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    Bring it on.

    San Antonio Calientes.

  4. #29
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    Bring it on.

    San Antonio Calientes.

    Stupid, but i don't know why i kind of like it.

  5. #30
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
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    It will be interesting to see how DC supports this MLB team after the "newness" wears off. They've already lost two teams to apathy and non-support.

    OK, what does this investor group get out of building these stadiums? Teams want a venue to move into, sell naming rights, gobble up concessions and parking, and pay zero rent. What does that leave for the investor group?

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    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    Here's a aerial picture of the SBC Center and the area around it.



    As you can see, there is a lot of land/parking lot space.

    I'm not sure how much 1,100 acres of land is compared to the picture but that is how much Holly Hilly purchased.

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    Did they actually purchase it, or are thinking of buying it. Wow if they did. There does seem to be a lot of land to the right, are there houses there?

  8. #33
    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    Did they actually purchase it, or are thinking of buying it. Wow if they did. There does seem to be a lot of land to the right, are there houses there?
    KENS reported at 6 that Holly Hills did purchase the land and that an official announcement about the sports complex would be made within 10 days.

    Yes, there are homes to the west and south of the SBC Center.

    To the north is industrial land and to the east is a golf course,

  9. #34
    It's In The Numbers 1369's Avatar
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    So the 1100 acres encompasses the Freeman/SBC grounds?

    I just don't see how it would be feasible to place all four venues (I'm including the SBC Center) in that small of a footprint. When you look at other GP tracks, you're looking at a lot of needed space (Sebring Int'l os 3.7 miles for example).

  10. #35
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
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    Again. Why would an investing company build MLB and NFL stadiums? What do they get out of it? The team(s) are going to want naming rights, concessions, parking, luxury suites, and NO rent.

  11. #36
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    Again. Why would an investing company build MLB and NFL stadiums? What do they get out of it? The team(s) are going to want naming rights, concessions, parking, luxury suites, and NO rent.
    I don't know. Maybe they're thinking something like a spec home?

  12. #37
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    That's about a billion dollars worth of spec homes.

  13. #38
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    No doubt, but you raise an interesting question that I can't see why anyone would do that.

  14. #39
    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    Again. Why would an investing company build MLB and NFL stadiums? What do they get out of it? The team(s) are going to want naming rights, concessions, parking, luxury suites, and NO rent.
    Because housing, office, entertainment, and a hotel will be built along with all the venues.

  15. #40
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    Because housing, office, entertainment, and a hotel will be built along with all the venues.
    Drive by Gardens? That is a pretty ty part of town, definitely our Ninth Ward.

  16. #41
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    Because housing, office, entertainment, and a hotel will be built along with all the venues.
    Would they close Pecan Valley, displace the Coca-Cola distributor, move the oil storage tanks?

    Not throwing rocks, but where would all this go?

  17. #42
    You can't handle The Truth TheTruth's Avatar
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    Red might be done buying teams.

    If you could convince him to buy a team, Id beg him to buy either Florida or Toronto.

    Those two teams are STACKED with talent.
    THe Rays have some nice young talent as well...

  18. #43
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    Here's a aerial picture of the SBC Center and the area around it.



    As you can see, there is a lot of land/parking lot space.

    I'm not sure how much 1,100 acres of land is compared to the picture but that is how much Holly Hilly purchased.
    I think almost all of that parking is used for Spurs games. Maybe not those two lots to the left of Freeman on the bottom, and possibly not the upper left section either. But there has to be more room than this. What if more than one event is going on at once? Parking would be impossible.

    Get the Saints here, then have Red buy a MLB team and move them here.
    My pocketbook can not handle season tickets to 3 sports! Would be nice to have the choice to be able to make that kind of decision though. Must be what it's like to live in Dallas, 4 professional teams at your finger tips.

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    if the marlins moved to san antonio i would literally be in heaven.

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    So San Antonio de Bexar is now supposed to be able to support a NBA, NFL and MLB team? Whatever, man.

    What it sounds like is the developer intends to build the track and then seek out a deal with the city/county for any potential stadiums.

  21. #46
    The Wright Stuff
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    Cue the broken record...

    The city can't afford it.

    Be happy with the Spurs.

    Go on with Life.

  22. #47
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    I think almost all of that parking is used for Spurs games. Maybe not those two lots to the left of Freeman on the bottom, and possibly not the upper left section either. But there has to be more room than this. What if more than one event is going on at once? Parking would be impossible.
    I'm not sure how much land is being used from that picture. It's 1,100 acres that Holly Hills bought.

  23. #48
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    Cue the broken record...

    The city can't afford it.

    Be happy with the Spurs.

    Go on with Life.
    You just opened the door to a 10 page fest.

  24. #49
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    It's called reality. You guys seem to think that somehow San Antonio has turned into DFW or Houston overnight.

  25. #50
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    It's called reality. You guys seem to think that somehow San Antonio has turned into DFW or Houston overnight.
    Was Phoenix a DFW or Houston when they got their NBA, NFL, and MLB team? Are they even one now?

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