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    yup looks like all he will charge libby with is perjury and false statements....

    there won't be a trial about WMD's or the case for war, or a crime about leaking a covert agents iden y.. no fitzmas this year ...

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    WMD's? what would be a good trial so Clinton admin, France, UN, England MI 5 and others that said he had WMD could testify.

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    Joined? They are cofounders.
    Well there goes my theory that you had intelligence. Go back to hurricanes.
    At least there you made sense.

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    I swear, gtownspur should change his name to Nostradamus

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    Well compared to NbaDans predictions that we were going to have 6 indictments. YEah you can call me Nostra.

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    touche

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    The s bag, lying ball of string about the Iraq war will go through a lot more unraveliing. Scooter is just the first yank of string.

    May the special prosecutor(s) return to the Repugs the favor of Whitewater/Paula-MonicaGate.

    Lies abou he-said-she-said sex vs lies resulting in 2000 dead Americans? NO CONTEST.

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    Well compared to NbaDans predictions that we were going to have 6 indictments. YEah you can call me Nostra.

    Wait a minute, the investigation is not over. If Fitzgerald felt there was nothing else he would have closed the case. He did not close the case. He's getting another grand jury and keeping this very serious investigation open.

    Mr. Cheney, Rove and Gov. Bushs' future do not look very promising,...

    not that it ever did.

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    Bush, cheney, rumsfeld, and the whole illegal white house lawn care service will be behind bars...... GO KUCINICH!!!!!!!2008!!!!!!!!!

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    yup looks like all he will charge libby with is perjury and false statements....
    And Libby's defense of those charges will be that his memory of the events became sketchy because of the time lapse. I'd be surprised if he's convicted of anything at all.


    WASHINGTON (AP) - The lawyer for Vice President Cheney's former top aide is outlining a possible criminal defense that is a time-honored tradition in Washington scandals: A busy official immersed in important duties cannot reasonably be expected to remember details of long-ago conversations.

    Friday's indictment of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby alleges that as Cheney's chief of staff he lied to FBI agents and a federal grand jury. The case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton, a nominee of President Bush in 2001.

    Libby, who resigned as soon as the indictment was handed up, was operating amid "the hectic rush of issues and events at a busy time for our government," according to a statement released by his attorney, Joseph Tate.

    "We are quite distressed the special counsel (Patrick Fitzgerald) has now sought to pursue alleged inconsistencies in Mr. Libby's recollection and those of others and to charge such inconsistencies as false statements," Tate continued.

    "As lawyers, we recognize that a person's recollection and memory of events will not always match those of other people, particularly when they are asked to testify months after the events occurred."

    The lack-of-memory defense has worked with varying degrees of success in controversies from Iran-Contra to Whitewater.

    Only one person went to prison in the Iran-Contra affair, although several people pleaded guilty to making false statements. President Clinton and his wife, Hillary, were cleared in the Whitewater investigation of fraudulent land deals in Arkansas, a subject well-suited to a lack-of-memory defense. The land deals took place a decade before they came under criminal investigation.

    Tate referred to another possible line of defense, saying that "for five years, through difficult times, Mr. Libby has done his best to serve our country." That argument worked in the administration of President George H.W. Bush in 1992, though not in court.
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    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051029/D8DHPI000.html

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    It won't work for Scooter though. I was watching Tim Russert's show last night, and they brought this up. His own testimony before the GJ is going to work against him. It covers the same time period and is reputed to be in great detail and down to the minutia, something that would be difficult for an individual with a foggy memory.

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    It won't work for Scooter though. I was watching Tim Russert's show last night, and they brought this up. His own testimony before the GJ is going to work against him. It covers the same time period and is reputed to be in great detail and down to the minutia, something that would be difficult for an individual with a foggy memory.
    Tim Russert???????

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    Here's an interesting article posted on Drudge a couple of hours ago.

    PROSECUTOR PLANS ON CALLING CHENEY AS WITNESS IN OPEN COURT; EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE FIGHT LOOMS



    Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald is planning to call Vice President Cheney as a witness in the trial of Lewis Libby, the DRUDGE REPORT has leaned.

    But the high stakes move could result in an executive privilege showdown between the White House and Fitzgerald, a top government source said Sunday.

    "If Mr. Fitzgerald is going to demand a public recounting of conversations between the vice president, or even the president, and his staff, on matters he, himself, has acknowledged are 'classified,' executive privilege will obviously be invoked."

    Fitzgerald has made it clear to lawyers involved in the case that he prefers Cheney appear as a witness in open court.

    "Mr. Fitzgerald is starting from the position that this should not be done on remote or videotape," the well-placed source said.

    Fitzgerald and Libby's attorney Joseph Tate discussed possible plea options before the indictment was issued last week, TIME magazine reports in new editions. But the deal was scotched because the prosecutor insisted that Libby do some "serious" jail time.

    Developing...
    http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6fi.htm

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    Well there goes my theory that you had intelligence. Go back to hurricanes.
    At least there you made sense.
    Funny you bring "making sense" up 'cause you have 757 posts of pure nonsense.

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