If our team had HARDEN...

[Spurtacular]

For a DDR swap i wouldn't either but i can't watch Harden bball, can't do it.

For anything. The man is 2X MVP of the league FFS.

[GreekSpursfan]

For anything. The man is 2X MVP of the league FFS.

He's unathletic, doesn't play defense, chokes in big moments, you will never win anything with Harden as your best player and the way he plays. Your best player has to be a two-way wing player.

[Spurtacular]

He's unathletic, doesn't play defense, chokes in big moments, you will never win anything with Harden as your best player and the way he plays. Your best player has to be a two-way wing player.

That's all a bunch of narrative. No GM in their right mind wouldn't take a reasonable offer for Harden.

[tholdren]

Harden took his team to game 7 last year and game 6 this year vs a team with far more talent than his team.

Wut

[RC_Drunkford]

Remember when that er melted down with JSimms defending him in an elimination game?

Remember that Harden hits 3s in elimination games while DeRozan can't even hit them in preseason

[GreekSpursfan]

That's all a bunch of narrative. No GM in their right mind wouldn't take a reasonable offer for Harden.

I'm not saying that Harden is better than what we have but if you're betting on Harden to lead you to the promised land, good luck with that.

[K...]

SO out of the three OKC alums, who would you pick, WESTBRY, HAREDN, or Durbeta?

[FkLA]

People sould never comment on a game they haven't seen and just through stats to back their opinions. Harden single handedly gave the game away the other night.
I don't dispute that he's better than DDR because many are but i really hate his game and i'm almost certain that he will never win anything ever if he's your leader.

You like to rely too much on your eye test (which isn't very good to begin with) and ignore numbers, tbh.

Yeah, he's shriveled up plenty of times in key moments, although that wouldn't be the first time a legit superstar did that (Curry, Durbeta, LeBron, Dirk, etc have all done it). Still, despite his flaws I'd much rather take my chances with him than with the two fake stars we have.

Not if he disappears in the fourth of a close game.

Our fake stars not only disappear in the 4th Qtr, but don't come near those numbers the rest of the game either. I'd take a couple of guys over Harden but none of them are on our team.

[FkLA]

SO out of the three OKC alums, who would you pick, WESTBRY, HAREDN, or Durbeta?

Easy:

1. Durbeta
2. Harden



3. Westchuck

[Spurtacular]

I'm not saying that Harden is better than what we have but if you're betting on Harden to lead you to the promised land, good luck with that.

I'd take my chances.

[GreekSpursfan]

You like to rely too much on your eye test (which isn't very good to begin with) and ignore numbers, tbh.

Yeah, he's shriveled up plenty of times in key moments, although that wouldn't be the first time a legit superstar did that (Curry, Durbeta, LeBron, Dirk, etc have all done it). Still, despite his flaws I'd much rather take my chances with him than with the two fake stars we have.



Our fake stars not only disappear in the 4th Qtr, but don't come near those numbers the rest of the game either. I'd take a couple of guys over Harden but none of them are on our team.

I don't disagree with the numbers but Harden single handedly lost that game the last 2 minutes and this was not any game, it was THE game. The others you mentioned didn't ALWAYS choke, he does.
We need an upgrade for a chance to win it all not more of the same.

[tholdren]

St should shut down. This low lvl iq game is awful

[Othyus Lalanne]

Remember that Harden hits 3s in elimination games while DeRozan can't even hit them in preseason

Last time the Spurs saw him in the playoffs he did not bother to take enough shots period.

Our fake stars not only disappear in the 4th Qtr, but don't come near those numbers the rest of the game either. I'd take a couple of guys over Harden but none of them are on our team.

Adding him while he is not over himself won't do much for the Spurs.

Stop. That's not what would happen.

Look into those eyes...

[vavvi]

Have I seriously seen a DDR vs Harden discussion here?
Maybe should go check my vision

[r0drig0lac]

Harden >>>> DeRozan+LMA

no doubt

[exstatic]

Have I seriously seen a DDR vs Harden discussion here?
Maybe should go check my vision

Maybe you should check your vision if you're seeing anything other than repeated late series chokes by Harden.

[vavvi]

Maybe you should check your vision if you're seeing anything other than repeated late series chokes by Harden.

You think DDR can take GS to game 7 or even game 6?

I'm not saying I think Harden is the best player in the league (he isn't), or that I enjoy watching him play (I don't). It's just DDR and Harden are players from different universe in today's leagues. You know how many GMs would trade DDR for Harden straight up? 100%. Even DDR himself would trade himself for Harden.

[Othyus Lalanne]

You think DDR can take GS to game 7 or even game 6?

I'm not saying I think Harden is the best player in the league (he isn't), or that I enjoy watching him play (I don't). It's just DDR and Harden are players from different universe in today's leagues. You know how many GMs would trade DDR for Harden straight up? 100%. Even DDR himself would trade himself for Harden.

As part of a team yes. I don't trust Harden not to be a primadonna.

[exstatic]

You think DDR can take GS to game 7 or even game 6?

I'm not saying I think Harden is the best player in the league (he isn't), or that I enjoy watching him play (I don't). It's just DDR and Harden are players from different universe in today's leagues. You know how many GMs would trade DDR for Harden straight up? 100%. Even DDR himself would trade himself for Harden.

That doesn't mean that Harden isn't a choker. Doing later in a series isn't any better than all series long. You still don't advance and get the LoB. There are no points awarded for extending a series, only for winning it.