Trade DeMar

[RC_Drunkford]

The trade le should be trade Mills tbh. I don't like DeRozan's game, but we won't get a player better than him this offseason. If you want to make a run keep Aldridge/DeRozan/Gay and add Bogdanovic into the mix. That means getting rid of Mills and either Bertans or Belinelli or all 3 without taking salary back. Now for the 4th pick I'd trade DeRozan, but counting only on the development of the young guys is a huge gamble

[tbdog]

TBdog is going to eviscerate me but this is what i said before and I still think:
“IMHO
DDR is cancerous; the stank around him pulls everyone down especially at crucial moments
Mills just isn’t any good
SA would be better w/o both
Assuming they could get a couple of decent replacements who can defend and make an open shot at a reasonable percentage”

I don't see how DD is cancerous. He was loved, like absolutely beloved in Toronto; his team mates, his fans, the organisation, coaches, the whole lot. And it took the organisation the best player in the world to be disgruntled and available for them to trade him. This isn't a Jimmy Butler type of thing. A D-Ang Russell recording his team mate confessing to cheating. Or I'm a starter Melo. Lance Stevenson, Dwight Howard laughing around and not caring. DD might lack some leadership skills but he is a willing team mate, stays out of trouble off the court, stays healthy on the court, and appears to train hard. I don't get the issue here.

[tbdog]

The trade le should be trade Mills tbh. I don't like DeRozan's game, but we won't get a player better than him this offseason. If you want to make a run keep Aldridge/DeRozan/Gay and add Bogdanovic into the mix. That means getting rid of Mills and either Bertans or Belinelli or all 3 without taking salary back. Now for the 4th pick I'd trade DeRozan, but counting only on the development of the young guys is a huge gamble

If we trade him for the 4th pick, we don't make the playoffs, so may as well sell LMA out and dump him. Then we are just going to hope for the best and see what comes out of these picks. And it has been said time and time again, tanking often leads to more tanking. You align your best players contract with one another. Once it's time to move, you do. You get another star while your youth movements continues.

[Manong Ginobili]

DeRozan & Fatty to NO for the 4th pick

This. Griffin is looking for an established all-star. DeMar can make them relevant, after doing the same for Toronto

[Down Under]

Spurs need to have a meeting with Demar to let him know that we do want him on the team, not as a starter, but as a 6th man. If he is not with it, we need to look to trade him, and it wouldn't be because we didn't want him. Demar is still a major piece to winning a championship. But his lack of outside shot hinders our first unit when defenses can game plan for us. His scoring fits best with a one on one type of play that can be used in the second unit, posting up, slashing to rim, mid range pull ups, and kick outs. He's not really a spot up guy, something our first unit requires since Demar is not a point guard. He'd still average 20+ pts a game. I think he'd play a more efficient game and would be in rhythm all season long playing against opposing teams 2nd units, which would benefit his confidence entering the playoffs.

It's fine that Demar will make 28mil on his last year of his current deal, but after that, I think a fair deal for both sides would be 16m-19m a year for 4 years. I can't imagine another team offering him much more than 20mil on a multiyear deal. Demar as a 6th man would not only make our 2nd unit more lethal but would also accelerate the growth of our younger guys in the starting line up. If the starting unit is struggling they would have Demar to fall back on. I hope Demar can be open to this idea so he can get a ring too. Maybe the Spurs will leave him in the starting line up so he can try to make one more all star game this year, with all the injuries he may have a chance. But if he is not willing to come off the bench at some point, I think we will look to trade him or just let him walk.

I always thought he'd make a pretty good 6th man.

[testies]

honestly if we play the Suns in the playoffs with derozen I wouldn't even bet on us to win. they are athletic and try hard, thats enough to make demar shiver in his blanket

[kobyz]

The trade le should be trade Mills tbh. I don't like DeRozan's game, but we won't get a player better than him this offseason. If you want to make a run keep Aldridge/DeRozan/Gay and add Bogdanovic into the mix. That means getting rid of Mills and either Bertans or Belinelli or all 3 without taking salary back. Now for the 4th pick I'd trade DeRozan, but counting only on the development of the young guys is a huge gamble

Would you do Bellinelli, Bertans and #19 for Bogdanovic?

[monty4329]

DDR + Mills for a year of KD rehabbing + some cap space. GS needs bodies and points. Everybody happy.

[RC_Drunkford]

If we trade him for the 4th pick, we don't make the playoffs, so may as well sell LMA out and dump him. Then we are just going to hope for the best and see what comes out of these picks. And it has been said time and time again, tanking often leads to more tanking. You align your best players contract with one another. Once it's time to move, you do. You get another star while your youth movements continues.

That's not true because

A. The team made the playoffs with LA being the only star that year before
B. we get Murray back
C. You forget the cap space that that would open up. Spurs could add Bogdanovic and Marcus Morris easily and that alone would make the team better than last years
D. DeAndre Hunter is the best defender in the draft and with him we'd have a defensive 3 who could play right away

I'd still rather move Mills and Belinelli though

[RC_Drunkford]

Would you do Bellinelli, Bertans and #19 for Bogdanovic?

No because he's a free agent and he'll want more than 12 million. Even more than 15 million. Giving up a pick to sign somebody who's a free agent anyway makes no sense. But I would be open to dumping Mills by adding 29 and maybe move Bertans and 19 to move up a little. That would give the Spurs enough room to sign Bojan. The one problem with DeRozan is that this is a contract year (although he has a player option next offseason) and it would be stupid to lose him for nothing. So trading him now makes the most sense, unless you plan on extending him

[Trainwreck2100]

DeRozan & Fatty to NO for the 4th pick

that's not how trades work, at all

[Marcus Bryant]

It’s not like DeRozan guarantees you a deep playoff run and he doesn’t fit the team well. Not sure what return you can get for him though.

[TimDunkem]

Now that the Warriors are no longer the Warriors it would make a lot more sense to keep DeMar since literally 8 teams or so in the west have a legit shot at the finals. We are just one athletic defensive PF/SF away from having a pretty complete roster. Poeltl and Aldridge is an ok fit but Aldridge will need to play 5 at least half the time if not more.

DD will never ring. We won't win with him.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

that's not how trades work, at all

Don’t ruin this thread with sense or intelligence.

[Kurgan]

His inability to play offball, shoot the threeball, or defend makes him a horrible fit in our starting lineup(or any starting lineup for that matter). Just look at how horrendous his On-Off numbers were in the playoffs this year. We gotta stop pretending he's suddenly going to turn the corner at age 30 and become a different player because of the re ed "Durr, spurs players need a year in da system" bull . Raptors tried to make him a three point threat and it didn't work(barely shot 31%). They also tried surrounding him with three point shooters to offset his deficiency from there and it didn't change a thing as the Raptors were humiliated in the post-season year after year. Everyone insisted that it was a Raptors problem and that Lowry shared DD's playoff struggles but Lowry thrived this year while Demar continued to choke(1 for 10 shooting in the most important game of the season).

Pop needs to bring him off the bench where he can dominate the ball all he wants. He can feast on bench units and his defense won't be as much of an issue against scrubs. Manu's ten times the player he is and he was willing to come off the bench to help the team. If Demar doesn't like it, he can pout and opt out next year - Spurs won't miss him.

[TDMVPDPOY]

trade him to the knicks or nets...

wouldnt mind that snitch russell who has improve his game alot...

[Bellboy]

San Antonio gets:

Devin Booker
Ty Warren
#32

Phoenix gets:

Derozan
Mills
#29

We get younger and only add one guaranteed roster spot

[szkorhetz]

San Antonio gets:

Devin Booker
Ty Warren
#32

Phoenix gets:

Derozan
Mills
#29

We get younger and only add one guaranteed roster spot

Why in the world would Phoenix do this?
Are you crazy or what?

[Bellboy]

All trade machines say Phoenix gets 2 more wins and San Antonio gets 4 less wins

They make playoffs, we don’t.

They end our playoff streak and it exorcises all their past demons with the Spurs. ��

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[Bellboy]

Why in the world would Phoenix do this?
Are you crazy or what?

Doesn’t matter anyway. Booker’s off court behavior is not Spursy.

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