Reply With QuoteIf they could rework Horry's deal to give him more guaranteed years then they might be able to lower his salary for next season.
And does anyone else find funny the idea that we're "foiling" Utah and Denver by sending Miller to the Kings.
"Drat!"
*twiddle mustache*
"To the lottery we go!"l
If they could rework Horry's deal to give him more guaranteed years then they might be able to lower his salary for next season.
MB: Artest averaged 15-16 pts, 5-6 boards, 3 assists last year.
If he improved those number a little and won DPOY, I could see him sneaking into third-team.
He needs more than that.
he needs a therapist first of all.
Dudes literally nuts.
He needs to spend some time with jack Nicholson at the nut house.
I do have to say Hedo Turkoglu would be real intersting as a pickup but, Mercer is expensive.It's expected that at least one more player will be involved in the deal, likely going to Indiana, to satisfy salary-cap requirements
Yeah Turkoglu!!
Ick, Mercer can't even shoot the 3! :vomit
Hidayet Turkoglu - $1,300,920 - 2004-05
Ron Mercer - $6,750,000 - 2003-04(old?)
jazzhoops.net/salary.htm
I wonder who the other mystery person is?
Boy they must really have something planned in a year or two.
I could see T Mac as a target but, isn't he two years out?
Glenn Robinson averaged 20 points, 6.5 rebounds and 3 assists, like Artest he's not even close to 3rd NBA-team nomination. It takes more than stats
Those numbers were close to Parker's if you switch the rebounds and the assists.
Parker was not third team all-nba. Artest was not either.
To be considered in the top 15 in the NBA is a real honor.
I hope that Parker will be there while Timmy is less than 30 years old.
Being good is different than being great.
Again, if Horry's deal is reworked to where he gets more guaranteed years at a lower starting salary then the Spurs can do this deal without sending out anyone 'cept picks.
How many 6'10" shooters do we need, anyway?:winkIf they could rework Horry's deal to give him more guaranteed years then they might be able to lower his salary for next season.
This also lets Pop shove it RIGHT UP DAN FEGAN'S ASS. Gives you a nice combination of O and D in your swing rotation with Turk, Manu, and Bowen, with Mercer as a spare. Just going by the friggin ratios on realgm, it looks like the Spurs only take on about $9M in salary, leaving enough for a backup PG.
Plus we would get Turk's Bird rights as well. Renounce Horry and Mercer and resign Turk and Manu next summer
Agree 100%
This gives them barganing power over Jack now.
LOVE this trade.
ESPNEWS said it looks like the Spurs only give up draft picks.
AWESOME DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No they'll keep Horry. Just rework the deal to make this trade happen. No way do they back out on him.
It would in theory make Jack expendable though I would hate to see that.
They have enough room on the active roster to take on Mercer and Turkoglu as well as keep Jack. Kerr and Manu could handle the backup point duties.
I believe the Spurs would have 48 hours in which to find a home for Mercer in another trade.
Horry more than likely will have to be garunteed a second year thats why they prob havent announced this signing yet.
Obviously, you're ignoring the part where I say "he wins DPOY".
That's the same reason why Ben Wallace makes All-NBA.
That's also how Alvin Robertson and Rodman made a couple of teams.
You're right it's not about stats. Which is my whole point.
Ben Wallace makes it because there aredamn few centers in the league, and he leads it in rebounds
Both made all DEFENSIVE teams, but no all NBA teams 1 2 or 3.That's also how Alvin Robertson and Rodman made a couple of teams.
If this trade goes through, then there will be no Piatkowski and most likely no Jack. I just hope it goes though without the Spurs giving up a current player (Bowen/Malik). To do that, they have to renegotiate Horry's deal.
Who were those people in here just bashing the Spurs Front Office saying they're letting other teams get better without capspace while the Spurs were just settling for Rasho and Horry? I thought Pop and RC were just gonna sit on their ass with their fingers scratching their butts all summer.
BZZZT!Both made all DEFENSIVE teams, but no all NBA teams 1 2 or 3.
Wrong.
Robertson: All-NBA 2nd team 1985-1986 (SA)
Rodman: All-NBA 3rd team 1991-1992 (Det), 1994-1995 (SA)
Mercer will be gone next summer if not this summer. Yes, if they have to keep Mercer the roster would be a little crowded now but I don't see a reason to run Jack away.
If they do this deal with only sending out draft picks then that means that they won't sign a backup PG if they re-sign Jack. They can use Kerr and Ginobili to do that.
Of course, if Kerr was willing to spend the season on IR then they could sign a backup PG but I kinda doubt that.
I agree that Artest has All-NBA talent if he can keep his head on straight. But that is like saying Dennis Rodman could be a good addition to our team tomorrow if he could keep his on straight.
THe fact is Artest can't keep his head on straight, and he'll never be a Spur- so lets not worry about it.
I like this deal.
Now for some questions.
I'd assume this deal would make the chances of resigning Jackson slimmer (please correct me if I'm wrong, which I hope I am). So in the event Jack goes elsewhere:
Mercer is listed as a forward, but can he start at the two? Or is Manu our starting 2? If Mercer can start, I think he can return to the form he had in Chicago, putting up some Derek Anderson like number (15ppg). If Manu is our 2, does Mercer split time between the 2 and 3?
Well , I forgot about Hedo.
Can someone hook me up with a minutes breakdown of how this works- without entering the fantasy world idea that Pop is suddenly going to stop starting Bowen.
Mercer would be the odd man out, IMO. I don't think the Spurs want to lose Jack even if this deal goes down. I would not be surprised to see the Spurs turn around and deal Mercer within the 48 hour 'grace period'.
He also averaged about 34 mpg. Why do people make this mistake so often? There is no way that Artest is >> Turkoglu. The last time Turk averaged significant minutes in '01-'02 he put up 10 ppg, 4.5 rpg and 2 apg in only 25mpg. Very comparable to Artest's stats if we extrapolate the extra minutes.MB: Artest averaged 15-16 pts, 5-6 boards, 3 assists last year.
I want Turk. Sign him up.
Alright, 'bear, ya got me. I think AR squeeked on once because of the QUAD/DOUBLE and leading the league in steals, and Rodman was CONSISTANTLY an NBA rebounding champ. What outstanding single trait does Artest have, other than being suspended? He's regarded as a pest on defense, and a ING PSYCHO league-wide, and don't forget that these teams are voted on. Artest had less than a zero chance to ever get voted to one, snice his bona fides would be questionable/borderline anyway, and his antics would turn the tide against him.
BTW, ARTEST ISN'T COMING, OR PART OF THE DEAL. The major reason is probably, besides being a ing psycho, his deal runs past next year.
Hedo is nowhere near the defender that Artest is, and nowhere near as valuable. The point of the stats is that Artest is a GREAT defender who also brings reasonable offense to the game.
I don't want Artest, but statements like Hedo > Artest would get laughed out of any serious basketball discussion.
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