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Since when has backlash over letting a player go ever hurt the bottom line?
You'd think they'd be ting all over Barry and Rasho if anyone.
Consistency doesn't seem to be a hallmark of this conspiracy.
Let's trade NAZR, RASHO, and BENO for Garnett.
Since when has backlash over letting a player go ever hurt the bottom line?
You'd think they'd be ting all over Barry and Rasho if anyone.
Consistency doesn't seem to be a hallmark of this conspiracy.
In all seriousness I like the line up better with Nazr than with Rasho.He just needs a few weeks to readjust and Rasho will be blindsided and be traded. I'll take Nazr even with all his pump faking shots over Rasho.He becomes a liability when we start him and Bowen on offense.
Okay Timvp, explain to me why Pop would wanted to lower Nazr's market value.
I don't doubt you. I just don't understand the benefit. What is Pop's motive?
so spurs can resign him for a cheaper price...
His value is never going to go under this season's salary, and that's what it would have to do to stay under the tax threshold.
Garnett will not end up in Minny as a scrub.He will probably end up in LAL or NYN. I don't feel he has the ego of playing second fiddle to anyone in SAS.
Poisoning is much more effective.
Why lower Nazr's value?
How about because you intend to start Oberto and let Mohammed walk next summer?
This assumption that the Spurs won't let talent walk is curious, especially since they just did last summer and have done so before. It's also curious because the primary complaint they had about the man they traded for Mohammed was his contract. That desire to pare down long term payroll did not end when Malik left town.
Any other questions?
I'm interested. How exactly can you lower a player's value.. who determines it and based on what criteria?
I'm prety sure Spurs will make a trade before the deadline to go under the Lux Tax.
They won't trade a min salary player (Spurs have still the min number of players, it won't help them to go under the tax), a vet who just sign (bad reputation among other vet for the years to come) and a star.
Spurs will trade Rasho, Oberto, Nazr or Brent :
- Oberto is unlikely (cheap and new signing)
- Brent has a trade kicker and he comes for cheaper than the offer he receives from other teams (bad reputation for Spurs among old vets who wants a ring)
So Nazr or Rasho :
Rasho is very difficult to trade (due to his contract).
Next year Rasho will be the cheap guy ($23M over 3 years) compared to Nazr (bigs are overpaid, he can have $45M/$50M for five or six years via FA)
My prediction :
Nazr traded before february for bad expiring players+picks or prospects.
Why lower Nazr's value?
If the Spurs want to re-sign him, it's going to be a lot easier making room for a $35M contract than a $70M contract. If Nazr was given the starting spot and given big minutes, his stock would be higher than Erick Dampier's ... and we all saw how much money he got. So if the Spurs actually want to keep Nazr, this is actually the only way.
The Spurs are a machine. Nothing happens by accident.
You'd think Spurs fans would realize this by now.
Rasho 10 min: 2 points,2rbs and 3 fouls
Nazr 9minutes 4 points,1 rbd and 1foul
If the Spurs plan on letting Nazr walk next season it is NOT in their best interests to lower his value. It is better to inflate his value so a potential compe or will have to tie up more money to sign him.
If the Spurs plan on trying to trade Nazr next summer, it is NOT in their best interests to lower his value. Better to have people believe he is a real value so you get more through a trade.
Only if the Spurs plan on re-signing Nazr does driving his value down make any sense. And then I think it is a ridiculous notion as I believe the Spurs are solely focused on winning the NBA Championship which will only be made easier by Nazr playing well and focused on the task at hand. Pop has yelled and barked at virtually every Spur numerous times, too believe there is an ulterior motive for this specific case is a very tough pill to swallow. Especially only after the first game.
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Still puts them over the tax threshold.
How did we lower Manu's value again?
I respect your opinion, however if you have figured this out, it stands to reason that perhaps a few GM's will as well?
Absolutely a move will be made.
Problem is, it's a lot easier to trade an expiring contract when you are willing to take back contracts with a year(s) left on them.My prediction :
Nazr traded before february for bad expiring players+picks or prospects.
the lowering of his value doesn't wash.
Malik,lowered his own value after he was paid,very differrent.
True, but not if they trade Rasho and/or Barry. The Spurs aren't going to swallow a $70M contract. They'll make room for a $35-40M contract.
By benching him. If Manu would have started the entire 2003-04 season, his value would have been $15-20M higher.How did we lower Manu's value again?
You forgot already?
I never said that the Spurs were trying to lower Malik's value. The only way Malik is related to this conversation is because Nazr received the "Malik Treatment". The comparison ends there.
Who says he wouldn't have gotten a serious injury starting and playing more minutes??If Manu would have started the entire 2003-04 season, his value would have been $15-20M higher.
Theres a whole can of worms that aint even worth opening.
Uh, his value was that much higher. Remeber Denver? He signed here for less.By benching him. If Manu would have started the entire 2003-04 season, his value would have been $15-20M higher.
You forgot already?
You forgot already?
Not sure what injury has to do with this topic. But if Manu would have been starting and Hedo was left to rot on the bench, Manu would have had the fame, glory, numbers and minutes played to be worth near a max contract.
Oops.
Huh?
Denver never put an offer on the table. They went after K-Mart.
Nazr spent have the summer fasting because of Rammahdam or whatever the it is and dealing with family issues. Rasho has been working on his game because he knew he was getting passed by.
I think one of them is going to be let go, but I think it is too early to say that Pop is trying to up Rasho's value and lower Nazr's so they can resign him. Let's see how the next couple of months play out first. Rasho might end up being the one they decide to keep and try to trade Nazr which wouldn't make Pop's supposed plan to devalue him very smart.
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