People With Extreme Political Views Have Trouble Thinking About Their Own Thinking

[TheGreatYacht]

Nick Fuentes Speech (Groyper Leadership Summit) #AmericaFirrst


The FUTURE of the Republican party

[CosmicCowboy]

like i said, it could have passed through reconciliation with 50 votes instead of needing 60 including lieberman

How would they get by the Byrd Rule on MFA with reconciliation?

[TheGreatYacht]

obama's far left policies and his "new era of change" was much more bark than bite. him, nancy, uncle joe, feinstein etc are now your dying breed of moderate dems and now you have the alt-left like bernie, talib, omar etc

Donald Trump Said Hillary Would Make a Good President


In 2008 Obama said that people like Hillary was what was wrong with Washington. He said that Hillary would say anything but change nothing. He said that Hillary lied. I am guessing that Obama changed his mind about Hillary just like Donald Trump changed his mind about hillary.

Lesson: They are all ing lying pieces of s.

[AaronY]

How would they get by the Byrd Rule on MFA with reconciliation?

They couldnt and Sinema, Tester, and Manchin already said they dont support nuking the filibuster so medicare for all is doa even if the Dems get the senate.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...ve-filibuster/

he's talking about the public option which they could have passed via reconcilation but there was debate about that working since Dem support was in question

https://www.vox.com/2016/8/18/125208...care-obamacare

https://www.salon.com/2009/11/25/reconciliation_3/

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...reconciliation

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...econciliation/



Progressives fault Obama for not pushing hard enough for it

[spurraider21]

How would they get by the Byrd Rule on MFA with reconciliation?

Public option during Barry’s time, not m4a

[CosmicCowboy]

So what do you guys think about candidates promising MFA if they are elected knowing it's impossible to get?

Kind of like getting those dang Mexicans to pay for that wall.

[AaronY]

So what do you guys think about candidates promising MFA if they are elected knowing it's impossible to get?

Kind of like getting those dang Mexicans to pay for that wall.

It's all about that purity test my man..gotta weed out the heretics and centrist "neoliberal" s . Might have to lose 4-5 elections to do it but it will be worth it. Goal #1 is cancelling Obama who's really a secret neocon which is what the Twitter rose vanguard is for

[spurraider21]

It's all about that purity test my man..gotta weed out the heretics and centrist "neoliberal" s . Might have to lose 4-5 elections to do it but it will be worth it. Goal #1 is cancelling Obama who's really a secret neocon which is what the Twitter rose vanguard is for

hypothetical election losses are funny and all, but it was the centrist hillary that managed to lose to ing trump

[AaronY]

hypothetical election losses are funny and all, but it was the centrist hillary that managed to lose to ing trump

Yes, correct Hillary did lose in 2016. But to get the full timeline correct. This was after Obama won 2 straight elections and Hillary despite being a ty candidate with literally zero charisma beat Bernie by 4+ million votes. But itwas before the Justice Dems aka Progressives flipped a grand total of 0.0 seats in 2018.

[AaronY]

Sorrry,but I am definitely annoyed we have to waste time with this nonsense which even Bernies own people privately admit is not going to happen

So what would the Bernie presidency really look like? During the past several weeks, I spoke with dozens of Sanders supporters, advisers and aides at events in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and California about what they would expect from a Sanders administration—and what’s already being discussed behind the scenes. Who’s in the Cabinet? How does he imagine his first 100 days? In terms of style, they envision a government driven by impatience, one that sees itself with a mandate to confront climate change vigorously, to shore up the nation’s labor unions and defend its immigrant populations. Maybe there won’t really be “Medicare for All,” thanks to Mitch McConnell and a Republican Senate,

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/12/16/bernie-sanders-first-100-days-president-white-house-administration-084447

[RandomGuy]

daca was fine, but pushed through executive order. there should have been more comprehensive immigration reform earlier in his presidency when he had congress on his side.

could say that about any president in IMO.

Found out a co-worker is a DACA recipient. It is good to have a face for the issue. Talked with her a bit about the process, including re-certification. She should really be offered citizenship.

[boutons_deux]

"when he had congress on his side."

you stupid

Repugs obstructed Obama From Day One. ACA was the priority, and it took a year and 100 Repug amendments to pass, without a single Repug vote.

Then Repugs took the House in 2010 and GAMEOVER, plus Moscow McC blocked ALL of Obama's Federal judges.

So YOU and your "when he had congress on his side."

In 2019, Moscow McC has ignored 100s of bills passed by the Dem House.

[baseline bum]

daca was fine, but pushed through executive order. there should have been more comprehensive immigration reform earlier in his presidency when he had congress on his side.

He took way too long to get the ACA passed and hence there wasn't time for anything else once Kennedy's seat got taken over by Scott Brown.

[ElNono]

Yes, correct Hillary did lose in 2016. But to get the full timeline correct. This was after Obama won 2 straight elections and Hillary despite being a ty candidate with literally zero charisma beat Bernie by 4+ million votes. But itwas before the Justice Dems aka Progressives flipped a grand total of 0.0 seats in 2018.

If we’re being honest here, Trump campaigned to the left of Shillary in economics. ‘Cheapest, best’ healthcare, decidedly anti-globalization (China/Mexico boogeyman, bring back manufacturing, etc), ‘my hedge fund friends are gonna have to lose some money’, etc... obviously all bull , but a message tailored to the Rust Belt/Florida that eventually got him elected..

[boutons_deux]

He took way too long to get the ACA passed and hence there wasn't time for anything else once Kennedy's seat got taken over by Scott Brown.

Dems will never learn. They play in good faith "reach across the aisle" while the pure, 100% scorched earth bad-faith

the our-party-only authoritarin, fascit Repugs deny the very legitimacy of the Dems right to exist,

have and will obstruct everything from the Dems even ideas originally supported by the Repugs.

Dems didn't have the balls to shut down the govt in the latest spending bill to maintain renewable energy support which the Repugs killed.

btw, Trash's tariffs on solar panels killed 70K jobs.

Nancy can pray for whomever and whatever, the nihilistic -Everything to-protect/enrich-oligarchy Repugs don't give a .

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The Energy 202: Clean energy loses big in year-end spending bill

The $1.4 trillion spending package approved by the House on Tuesday does not include a number of measures aimed at propping up alternatives to power generation and transportation that forgo burning fossil fuels,

House Democrats supported creating or extending tax breaks — lawmakers' favorite tool for supporting renewable energy — for solar energy, offshore wind turbines, electric vehicles and big batteries.

But almost none of those tax credits made it into the final deal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ff125ce5b5c76/

Even in the majority, Dems can't get done, and won't play hardball to get done.

Another way Repugs California, where residential solar has been and will continue to be huge

[DMC]

TGY is HITler... trying to sell hits to people online for their silly YT sites.

Do you also sell fake reviews, TGY?

[DMC]

Yes, correct Hillary did lose in 2016. But to get the full timeline correct. This was after Obama won 2 straight elections and Hillary despite being a ty candidate with literally zero charisma beat Bernie by 4+ million votes. But itwas before the Justice Dems aka Progressives flipped a grand total of 0.0 seats in 2018.

The DNC had a role in all that.

[AaronY]

The DNC had a role in all that.

Yep, running moderates/traditional democrats in all the red and purple districts is what won us the house in 2018:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...hat-do-n933771

now those moderates still are to the left of 15-20 years but got to the thank the DNC for having a smart election strategy there

[RandomGuy]

So what do you guys think about candidates promising MFA if they are elected knowing it's impossible to get?

Kind of like getting those dang Mexicans to pay for that wall.

Indeed.

They should try anyway. Force the Trump party to vote against giving everybody health insurance and make the contrast that much easier.