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  1. #26
    kohai
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    Ghost - I have to disagree. I think you HAVE to take your shot at the FAs. The younger players working out was just icing on the cake.

  2. #27
    Admiral
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    Is it just me, or does Marcus start one of these threads blasting Spurs fans at least three times a week?

    Stop acting like some of us are blaming the front office, Marcus. We know the Spurs tried, and are still trying, but the bottom line is that they have nothing to show for it. As many of us have asked for two years now, "Can Cap Space in 2003 play center?"

    If the fact that the Spurs "tried their best" makes you sleep better at night, good for you. The rest of us will realistically admit that this summer has sucked so far and hope that it turns out better. I have confidence in the front office that it will.

  3. #28
    kohai
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    The rest of us will realistically admit that this summer has sucked so far and hope that it turns out better. I have confidence in the front office that it will.
    I think you are probably not his "target" audinece, then.

  4. #29
    gospurs21
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    ok GW I'll byte.

    Since we are past the payton and artest trades, and FA is not yeilding anything, who can the Spurs trade for to bring 2nd star next to Tim?

    Who do we have to give up?

    I promise not to ...just wanna know what you think.

    or
    Who is untouchable, who is tradeable?

    Go Spurs...

  5. #30
    GrandeDavid
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    , I haven't even been back in San Antonio since Game 4 of the Finals! To me, at least, the party will start again when I get back to town in August. We need to gloat until we are dethroned, folks.

  6. #31
    TwoHandJam
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    If the fact that the Spurs "tried their best" makes you sleep better at night, good for you. The rest of us will realistically admit that this summer has sucked so far and hope that it turns out better. I have confidence in the front office that it will.
    Well put Admiral. I feel much the same way. Not getting Brand really took the wind out of my sails as I was really looking forward to him at least signing our offer sheet. Alas, it was not meant to be.

    I can only hope now that the Donald matches to **** over that bas Riley.

    So ing disappointing.

  7. #32
    SpursWoman
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    Stop acting like some of us are blaming the front office

    Admiral, have you read any of the posts around here? Been in most chats? I've seen quite a few who blame this entirely on Pop & RC (ie: The Front Office) and what they did or didn't do. That they were somehow lax in their pursuit of these free agents.

    Most rational people should understand that they could only do so much, if the FA's didn't want to be here they weren't going to sign. Period. But not everyone is rational when they are disappointed.

  8. #33
    T Park Num 9
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    dont think Pop and RC are busting there asses for these guys.

    Robert Horry saying that the Spurs want to talk to him is VERY encouraging.

    I like RObert Horry, hopefully the SPurs can convince a Pippen to sign, hed be a HUGE signing IMO!!

  9. #34
    RuffnReadyOzStyle
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    I'm extremely disappointed in our off-season, but I don't blame the Spurs at all - I blame the stupidity of FAs!!! As GW spelled out, we have it all to offer and they all ignored us (except Rasho)... WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF?????????????

    I still think we'll contend next year because Tony, Manu and Jax are gonna get better, but by Heyzeus I'm disappointed in JK/JO/EB, none of whom want to play in the NBAs best situation - what are you guys, farkin nuts???

    Anyway, we'll be okay.

    Just pray for Odom!

  10. #35
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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    I don't doubt for a minute that Pop and RC were busting their asses, I guess I just wonder (part of the post-mortem evaluation) if we could have done something different.

    For example, a big deal was made about that whole "Pop won't have some big show for the free agents, we'll just bring them in, keep it low key, and get to know them" plan of attack in the media.

    It has become (and truthfully probably was ahead of time) that a lot of these guys want to see their name in lights, they want the city to roll out the red carpet, put on it's best face, and say let's party.

    Where do you think the free agent is more likely to go? SA after going over and playing Pictionary at Pop's place, or for example Miami after going out and hitting all the clubs and wandering among the topless beauties on South Beach the next day?

    I realize that we like being low key and the Spurs do as well, but when you're whining and dining the FAs you need to hand over the hosting itinerary to SJax and let him get them ed up out on the town and have a good time.

    AHF

  11. #36
    Dunkel Weizen
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    I believe what neither we nor Pop nor RC understood is where winning actually falls among most NBA players' priorities.

    Apparently it's somewhere between endorsement money and golf.

    Maybe that's why the level of play isn't what it used to be.

    I don't know why I'm surprised by this. The kids don't leave school early to get a headstart on winning a championship.

  12. #37
    Ghost Writer
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    gospurs, quite frankly, no one is untouchable outside of Tim Duncan in a trade.

    Obviously our most tradeable commodities are Parker and Ginobili.

    I think Rose and Bowen are more expendable than those two players.

    Speedy Claxton could be used in asign-and-trade.

    And we still have $8 million worth of cap space to float at other teams.

    I would see what the Hawks are planning to do with Abdur-Rahim or Terry.

    I'd give Jerry West a call and see who he wants for Gasol or Swift.

    Do we dare inquire about Rasheed Wallace's availability?

    Trades guarantee you talent. Players have no choice but to play for us via a trade.





  13. #38
    bigzak25
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    totally agree with those choices there ghostman.....

    It's hard to imagine Pop parting with his guys though...Bowen, Malik......Bowen is our best on ball defenders...and not just our best...but one of the best in the league...and malik...he's played instrumental roles in both our championships....his hustle...he now has a jumpshot that other teams need to respect....

    i say screw it....if the spurs gotta win with our guys, then lets win with our guys...i don't want any trades to go down short of the speedy s&t. And that's only if speedy absolutely has his heart set on playing east....otherwise, I want him back too....i'm all for pippen, horry, whoever...wants to be a spur, play some D and hit some threes....

    go spurs man....

  14. #39
    gospurs21
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    thanks for your responce

    I like Adur-Rahim, but he seems a little over priced, maybe not now since we have so much cap room, for Malik and S/T Speedy, plus 2 2nd picks maybe?

    Sheed, while his skills are prett decent, I just don't see him fitting in with the whole TEAM concept.

    Gasol and Swift...I think the book is still out on both these guys, I would wait for one more year of seasoning before making a move on either one.

    I would let go of Rose, before Bowen. Bowen is here for one major reason...to guard Krybe. Until someone else in the league does a better job, I can't see giving that up for anything other than top 15 player

    Go Spurs...

  15. #40
    Admiral
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    Most rational people should understand that they could only do so much, if the FA's didn't want to be here they weren't going to sign. Period. -SpursWoman
    And that is exactly the problem, SpursWoman. Relying on free agency forces the Spurs to relinquish control to the free agents. Yeah, we can make a good presentation, show off our new practice facility and arena, etc., but the free agents are the ones who decide. That is a HUGE risk to take, especially when you make the decision to wait two years on it.

    Was it worth the risk? Based on who we've signed so far, I'm not so sure it was.

  16. #41
    Ghost Writer
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    Imagine if we weren't the only healhty Western powerhouse this playoffs. We probbaly wouldn't have won.

    And now imagine the backlash if we waited two years for Nesterovic.



  17. #42
    ducks
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    yeah the spurs should have an asterick because dirk got hurt in game

    please


    injuries are part of the game

    if duncan was healthy the spurs could have repated to. so should that season not count eith er because a nba player was hurt ?

  18. #43
    Adrienne18
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    Ghost, assuming you're serious...I think the Spurs would have won no matter what. The Kings are good, but the Spurs are a better team, period. The Lakers were just plain done, it wasn't gonna happen for them this year no matter who they played I don't think, Shaq didn't care and the bench wasn't producing (not just a matter of injuries, NO ONE was producing, not even Fox or George really before they got hurt). The Mavs were never expecting to get that far, and weren't prepared, and were just worn out anyway after two series stretched to seven. Even if they all would have been healthy, the Spurs were just playing the best...you don't want to put an asterisk on your own le, do you?:wink

  19. #44
    Jimcs50
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    I think SA is just fine right now. We ned a backup pointguard, but othet than that, we are still the team to beat. Spurs are #1 and will continue to be.

  20. #45
    gospurs21
    Guest
    GW,
    gotta go with Adrienne on this one. Even if all teams: suns, lakers, sac, mavs stayed healthy SA still wins the le. They were just too much of a team to lose.

    Stop with the ifs and buts to justify you're "holting pattern failed because all we got was Rasho" propaganda bull . It has already become old and tired, kinda like you.

    You really should think about becoming a portland or la fan. Those are the only teams that seem to do what you want a basketball team to do. Or is it you really like pissing off SA fans?

    Enough already, please

    Go Spurs...

  21. #46
    sportcamper1
    Guest
    Welllll…..I am not buying this 17 year old diva stuff…you know too much about NBA basketball…I think you are a man…man…


  22. #47
    Adrienne18
    Guest
    Haha, believe me, I'm not a man....I just watch a whole friggin lot of basketball, and was a cheerleader for my hs basketball team...friends with the whole basketball team...basically I think it, dream it, breathe it.:wink (This is, of course, assuming you were referring to me...as I don't know of any other 17 year old girls with the le "diva" in here...)

  23. #48
    sportcamper1
    Guest
    17/18 years olds need to be at the beach, playing volleyball….

    So do you think that signing really old players like Karl Malone is a smart strategy for the Lakers to avoid sex scandals?

  24. #49
    Adrienne18
    Guest
    Beach? What beach? I live in Dallas, maybe I could go to Lake Texoma...good idea really, I go to the pool almost every day but its crowded...hmm...

    Karl Malone? Sex scandal? It's weird to even hear that in the same sentence. Possibly...but if Kobe's guilty...shame shame...

  25. #50
    Jimcs50
    Guest
    Why do you have the number 18 in your le if you are 17? What does the 18 signify? How many times you have been proposed to? How many games you have attended? Your waist size? You shoe size, heaven forbid? I am intrigued here Adrienne.....

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