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    so what does that make Mike Pence tbh?
    mike pence is farther right than trump because he's extreme with the jesus

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    mike pence is farther right than trump because he's extreme with the jesus
    &

    Huckabee
    Ben Carson
    Santorum
    ... et al.

    But I think the good thing about Trump is he's helped distance the GOP from religion a bit. That will really help the party survive in the long run as the US becomes less and less religious like Europe. Note Trump seldom or never talks about God the way that the Bushes or McCain or Romney or past traditional GOP types have.

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    mike pence is farther right than trump because he's extreme with the jesus
    That didn't used to be an extreme thing.

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    That didn't used to be an extreme thing.
    its not extreme when practiced privately.

    he's extreme in that he constantly tries to legislate it

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    its not extreme when practiced privately.

    he's extreme in that he constantly tries to legislate it

    How to VP's introduce legislation?

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    How to VP's introduce legislation?
    by that logic a VP cannot be left or right because they dont impact legislation

    i'm looking at his political track record

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    If I had a gun to my head... I'd say both Obama and Trump are atheist, or agnostic at most.

    Trump is particular is Trump-theist, IMO.

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    "I'm libertarian"

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    You put me in the right box, but I would point out that the "center" has moved left.

    I would be a JFK voting Democrat in a different time.
    No you wouldn't, you'd be straight ticket Republican because of how much the beatniks, hippies and college demonstrators annoyed you.

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    How to VP's introduce legislation?
    You know Mike Pence used to be a governor, right?

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    Let's pretend we don't remember Obama, Hillary, and Biden's views on same sex marriage just a few years back.

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    lol trying to paint us into a corner is exactly what the left loves to do. you're either with the radical loony left or you're a nazi! ing losers!

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    Wouldn't call a beto voter such as yourself "center right", Andy

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    Let's pretend we don't remember Obama, Hillary, and Biden's views on same sex marriage just a few years back.
    obama loves , hillary loves the nani, and biden loves alzheimers.

    but yeah i get what you're hinting at... how about their stance on a border, kids in cages, etc? we all know the truth except the lefty's here like to turn a blind eye to the facts.

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    You know Mike Pence used to be a governor, right?
    Did he enforce some Christian legislation?

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    I am right, always, but not right of center.
    As long as you find the hole I'm sure he's happy

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    Let's pretend we don't remember Obama, Hillary, and Biden's views on same sex marriage just a few years back.
    yeah, the ship has sailed on gay marriage, and yes, if you are viewing the political landscape through the lens of that one issue, then sure, it has shifted left

    but once it became legalized/accepted and society and marriage didnt fall apart, all the people who opposed it because "its gross" or "its always been this way!" stopped caring

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    yeah, the ship has sailed on gay marriage, and yes, if you are viewing the political landscape through the lens of that one issue, then sure, it has shifted left

    but once it became legalized/accepted and society and marriage didnt fall apart, all the people who opposed it because "its gross" or "its always been this way!" stopped caring
    i doubt it but that's rad you have such a great imagination.

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    i doubt it but that's rad you have such a great imagination.
    you dont have to take my word for it. how many people in congress right now are actively trying to make gay marriage illegal with the same ferocity previously aimed at keeping it illegal?

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    Yea, Google wouldn't mislead you, Lite.

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    Thanks for not including me. Not belonging is exactly where I wanted to be.
    This. Take me off the list, please.

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    Yea, Google wouldn't mislead you, Lite.
    Do you really not understand what Google is?

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    Glad to not be included as well. Binary politics is something I reject.

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    yeah, the ship has sailed on gay marriage, and yes, if you are viewing the political landscape through the lens of that one issue, then sure, it has shifted left

    but once it became legalized/accepted and society and marriage didnt fall apart, all the people who opposed it because "its gross" or "its always been this way!" stopped caring


    I think it's just something the entire society finally accepted. Can't put an exact date on it.

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    Do you really not understand what Google is?
    Don't lash out, cuck.

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