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wow you guys are ing assholes
Infantile ignorance? Oh, right, because you've proven to be so ing knowledgable on this siteAHF displays his infantile ignorance and intellectual confusion in their full glory.About the only thing you can contribute to any discussion is " Bush, Bush ing sucks."
What intellectual confusion? We are witnessing the start of the intifadah in Europe before our very eyes, and your dumb ass is whining about a few cars getting stolen.
wow you guys are ing assholes
I didn't want to have to bust this out... either you're with France or you're with the terrorists.
A lot of people who are pissed off at the French only know what they hear on Fox News. There are a lot of extremely generous people in France who will get our help if they need it. France has saved American lives numerous times in Africa at their own risk, so save your crap.
(shrugs)
I am far from an admirer of French foreign/domestic policy, but if riots are any measure of how "good" a country is, you might want to consider the riots in the US first...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...f_civil_unrest
Articles in category "U.S. history of civil unrest"
There are 50 articles in this section of this category.
1
* 12th Street Riot
* 1968 Democratic National Convention
A
* African Blood Brotherhood
* Air traffic controllers' strike of 1981
* Anti-abolitionist riots (1834)
* Attica Prison riots
B
* Baltimore riot of 1968
* Baltimore riot of 1861
C
* Centralia massacre
* Chicago Race Riot of 1919
* 2001 Cincinnati Riots
* Civil disturbances and military action in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina
* Crown Heights Riot
E
* Elaine Race Riot
G
* Greensboro massacre
H
* Haymarket Riot
H cont.
* Hough Riots
J
* Jackson State killings
K
* Kent State shootings
L
* Lager Beer Riot
* 1992 Los Angeles riots
M
* Mass racial violence in the United States
N
* New Mexico State Penitentiary Riot
* New York Draft Riots
* 1967 Newark riots
O
* Omaha Race Riot of 1919
* Orangeburg massacre
P
* Peekskill Riots
* Philadelphia 1964 race riot
* Philadelphia Nativist Riots
* 1967 Plainfield riots
* Portland Rum Riot
* Pottawatomie Rifles
P cont.
* Pottawatomie massacre
* Preparedness Day bombing
* Pulaski Riot
R
* Red Summer of 1919
* Rosewood, Florida
S
* Seattle Mardi Gras Riots
* Stonewall riots
T
* 2005 Toledo Riot
* Tulsa Race Riot
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* Unrest
W
* WTO Ministerial Conference of 1999
* 1991 Washington, DC riot
* 1968 Washington, DC riots
* Watts riots
* White Night Riots
* Wisconsin Walleye War
Z
* Zoot Suit Riots
I would note that no small number of these riots are race and economically related. Disenfranchise people, and you get all sorts of nastiness.
Don't mind the violent Muslim riots, they're just engaging in an exchange of ideas.
I read a lot about this over the weekend, and the situation is about to turn hairier. NIcholas Sarkozy, the French Interior Minister, is a hardline right-winger that is calling the rioters "s " and wants to bring out fire hoses to dispell the crowds. He's also more popular than Chirac, and Le Monde ever said that if Sarkozy can end this that he'll be a shoo-in for President.
Chirac, on the other hand, has been trying to decide whether to run again or to try and get his Prime Minister (de Villepin) elected. His base wants to address the problem by improving the public housing in the "suburbs" that the rioters live in and try and chip away at the 25%+ unemployment rate among those Muslims dwelling there. Oh yeah, and Chirac/ de Villepin hate Sarkozy, even though he's the head of their political party.
The other two problems are that mosques are being targeted and that the Muslims want political legitimacy. Almost all of the mosques in the suburbs/ghettos are financed by concerns from the homeland, and in retaliation, Catholic churches are getting bombed. This pisses off the overwhelmingly Catholic French commoners who are screaming for action and are quite oblivious to the irony of it all.
The governemnt doesn't want to legitimize the Muslim ghettos by registering everyone to vote because they fear greater immigration and a very real possibility of a civil war once the Muslims seize some sort of power.
This whole scenario is just ed.
That sounds like a good summary of the situation.
France will be only one of the many European countries dealing with a sudden lack of geny. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.
This is Europe's demographic time bomb finally going off.
They don't reproduce, yet they have an expansive welfare state that needs workers.
Thus, they've brought in wave after wave of immigrants, typically from North Africa, the Middle East, and Asia.
But, they've made no effort to assimilate these immigrants. Instead, they've set up ethnic ghettos with nothing culturally in common with the nations at large. And, they've largely washed their hands of governing them.
So what you've ended up with are European cities ringed with ethnic ghettos with high unemployment, ruled de facto by drug gangs. It's like American cities, except the suburbs and the inner city are switched.
But, the big difference is Europe is the emergence of radical Islamism in the ghettos.
Uh-oh.
In the U.S., minorities trapped in poverty in the bad neighborhoods may be angry and blame the dominant white Anglo power structure for their plight. They may see themselves as victims.
Increasingly, that is NOT the case in Europe. The anger is out of hatred and contempt, not perceived injustice. They hate the French and the Danes and the Dutch because they are European infidels, and their long-term goal is NOT justice and equality. It is conquest.
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Now, this row in France has more to do with the power struggle between that vile contemptible little de Villepin and his rival Sarkozy. Sarzoky, an immigrant himself, is the rare French politician with credibility both among the ordinary French folks and the Muslim immigrants. But he is despised by the aristocratic classes because, well, he is not an aristocrat.
Sarkozy has been trying to implement reforms that actually meet the needs of these immigrant communities. He maintains that they need law and order in their communities in order to create and retain wealth and start to get ahead, and that they need that law and order more than they need "cultural understanding."
So his plan was to introduce a stronger police presence in the ghettos. He knew that the drug gangs would respond by rioting, because they want to retain their own power. His plan was to crush them mercilessly.
Enter de Villepin.
de Villepin figured that if he let the riots spiral out of control a little bit, then he could blame Sarkozy for the unrest and strengthen his own presidential ambitions. So that's what he did. He hamstrung the law enforcement effort.
Now, France is going to have a of a time putting the genie back in the bottle. At first, the religious extremists weren't the ones fueling the riots. But, they've taken advantage of the opportunity.
Now, the riots are spreading to Belgium, to Denmark, and to Germany.
Uh-oh.
^^Ex stout, France has had draconian measures to integrate muslims. the problem is, once the muslims do well in society, they flee the ghetto leaving behind nothing to teach the incoming people.
For those of you that don't know what gtown is talking about, France implores all of her immigrants to forget their roots and become French, rather than what Britain and the United States does with trying to get everyone to just learn English, obey the law and pay taxes. France denies any motion in which race, religion, color or sexual preference could undermine national unity at all.
I cannot understand people's animosity against the French.
WWII <<----
They started Vietnam too.. It's a long story.. France was a superpower. In it's heyday it was a Global Naval Power. Anyway appeasement and containment. Like Saddam said.. people like a strong horse not a weak one.
Islamic violence? Oh, I thought this thread was about something new.
I think it's because France is generally regarded as a more "enlightened" country than the US. So we here in the US take every opportunity to slam them when they make mistakes.
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I'd be cool if the rioters were also flesh eating zombies
France reaps what France sows!
instead of talking so much , maybe you should do something about it. If you were Muslim you would.
^Flash what have you done now. You hurt OH GEE's feelers. YOu better act nice or you'll be on his ignore list.
Christian violence? Oh, I thought this thread was about something new.
Like in Kent State?
Well Random, i guess your theory that a progressive state accomplishing more has been shot down as of lately. 10 percent unemployment... Yeah i bet that's a great economy.
Like I said on (I think) page 1, we're witnessing the start of another Crusade type period in world history.
Yet some ignorant s like NBADunce think we can just turn the other cheek and the militant Islam problem will go away.
I have a bad feeling this may be the beginning of the penultimate battle between militant Islam and the modernized West.
Pick a side boys, it's going to get ugly.
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