Germany Begins Universal Basic Income Trial With People Getting $1,400 a Month For 3 Years

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I have a hard time believing the richest country in the history of everything can't afford it.

What we really can't afford is the infinite greed of the rich. Unfortunately for us all, they've more or less bought out the political class.

This will help because they can revise the accounting for modeling implementation with this data. Hopefully that will lead to larger initiatives.

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This will help because they can revise the accounting for modeling implementation with this data. Hopefully that will lead to larger initiatives.

...but they may never forget The Holocaust.

tee, hee.

[z0sa]

The math isn't as hard as people think. The more social goodies, the more social good.

Money is a necessity of life like food, water, housing, transportation and health care. Upfront cash immediately solves difficulties of life -- establishing a floor for the whole of society is a great idea.

I'm onboard in theory, but I have somewhat related but perhaps not directly question (on phone sorry for any weirdness)

'what about our national debt? This is where I can't help but feel a bit weird. I understand government/central banks don't run a country's finances like a family does. But at what point do we decide it's time to slash benefits and jack taxes up to compensate for all of this borrowing? or is that not necessary for some reason? I know I sometimes ask maybe obvious (for you) questions but you always provide some great answers WH.

[Winehole23]

I would imagine everyone would like some upfront cash to cover essentials, it has nothing to do with being lazy. I've been working continuously since I was 14 years old and have been lucky enough not to need government assistance.

Looking at UBI through an individual lens misses the point, which is population level effects. If people don't have to fight so hard to cover basic needs, society as a whole prospers and the incentive for crime is greatly diminished.

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I would imagine everyone would like some upfront cash to cover essentials, it has nothing to do with being lazy. I've been working continuously since I was 14 years old and have been lucky enough not to need government assistance.

Looking at UBI through an individual lens misses the point, which is population level effects. If people don't have to fight so hard to cover basic needs, society as a whole prospers and the incentive for crime is greatly diminished.

It's easy when you don't have a MIC. Germany lucked out having Hitler. They send their German children to school. Americans send their American children to the slaughterhouses. Japanese children same thing...to school after they swore there'd be no more Sunday morning wake up calls after Harry S. hit 'em once and then..."Again."

[Winehole23]

We have a limited example of population-level effects from the recent past, the extended child tax credit. In about a year, child poverty in the US fell by half -- the largest drop recorded.

Since the tax credit has been ceased, child poverty has bounced back to its prepandemic level.

[z0sa]

We have a limited example of population-level effects from the recent past, the extended child tax credit. In about a year, child poverty in the US fell by half -- the largest drop recorded.

Since the tax credit has been ceased, child poverty has bounced back to its prepandemic level.

That's a great point. The extra $300 was nice. One of my old school friends who's more financially struggling also got out of a lot of those sheister bank fees, at least, that's what he told me. He said whenever they would insert the $300, suddenly his overcharge fees would disappear and whatnot so that the entire $300 could be deposited. Not sure if he was lying or anything though.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

UBI is not just straight cost. Depending on the plan it can replace social services ranging from disability, social security, unemployment, TANF, etc.

That is what makes these case studies interesting because you can start quantifying other economic benefits to health, education, availability, and the like. Add that to the cuts and undermining the core tragedy of the commons argument that UBI opposition uses.

[FrostKing]

Germany begins universal deportations

[ChumpDumper]

Germany begins universal deportations

What do you mean by "universal" and when did it begin?

[koriwhat]

LMAO Hey Hugo, eat and die bro!

Keep trying to vie for my attention like your gay counterparts here do daily. all you fruits!

[koriwhat]

The math isn't as hard as people think. The more social goodies, the more social good.

Money is a necessity of life like food, water, housing, transportation and health care. Upfront cash immediately solves difficulties of life -- establishing a floor for the whole of society is a great idea.

You're pathetic as just like your opinions and ideology.