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  1. #26
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    I believe you know the author.

  2. #27
    sportcamper1
    Guest
    I can’t believe all of this….

    The Spurs did nothing wrong in making a play for Jason Kidd

    Jason Kidd did nothing wrong for entertaining the Spurs gracious offer and in the end signing with the team that traded for him in the first place…

    From what I have read, LJ Ellis is the only person in San Antonio who felt that both J O’Neal & J Kidd would eventually sign with there own teams…

  3. #28
    Aggie Hoopsfan
    Guest
    Well this isn't surprising at all.

    And like I said in chat, Pop has got to realize he needs to be communicating more with Tony.

    Not sitting their with his smug little look saying "it's a business, deal with it."

    Right now that quote is gonna get thrown back in his face when Tony's deal is up.

    I'm still waiting to see what happens, but so far the Kidd lovefest by Pop, RC, and yes our beloved Tim Duncan has done nothing but **** this team up more.

    The sad part is Tony was right all along - we need a big, not another PG for Tim.

    AHF

  4. #29
    MannyIsGod
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    You guys are absolutely nuts.

    POPOVICH WANTED PARKER TO PLAY ALONGSIDE JASON KIDD.

    WHERE THE **** IS THE DISRESPECT IN THAT?

    What happend that made this go horribly wrong was Parkers agent got worried that Parker star wouldn't shine so bright with another good pointguard on this team.

    You hear that? TONY WAS CONVINCED TO BE SELFISH AND NOT THINK OF THE TEAM.

    FINE.

    Let see Tony bring it and show us just how wrong we were to go after the best point guard in the game. And if he wants to hold a grudge for 2 years, ing fine, leave. I don't give a . I don't want players who hold grudges for 2 ing years and put their interests above the team on my ing team anyway.

    THIS ISN'T THE CLIPPERS WHERE YOU GO TO WORK ON YOUR NEXT CONTRACT, THIS IS THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS WHERE YOU GO TO WIN.

  5. #30
    TwoHandJam
    Guest
    ing . Can this offseason get any worse? We got played by Kidd, pissed off Parker, lost PJ and now we're looking at Rasho or Kandi.

    Wonder ingful.

  6. #31
    ducks
    Guest
    yeah by trading tp for nothing good in return so pop feels better

  7. #32
    LittleGeneral
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    Guys, accoring to this link:
    www.mysanantonio.com/spor...lc=1024146
    "Parker . . . said he will do no more interviews until training camp . . ."

    Seems kinda strange that he'd turn around the next day and drop a bombs like this...

  8. #33
    ducks
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    Parker briefly told Popovich about his worries for the first time earlier this week. He said Popovich told him they would speak in depth on Wednesday, but the two had yet to talk as of late Thursday afternoon. Parker said he has left multiple messages for Popovich, who has been out of town. .
    www.mysanantonio.com/spor...lc=1024146


    sounds like pop was not living up to his talk. maybe he should grow up to. telling your point guard you will talk in depth on wednessday and not and no phone call is bad business.[/quote]


    Parker and Popovich both took exception to an article in Monday's New York Times that said Parker had informed the team he wanted to be traded if Kidd was signed. Both deny having discussed a trade. Parker reiterated Thursday he wants to finish his career in San Antonio.

    "I love the fans," Parker said. "I love the owners and my coaches and teammates. I want to stay here, but I want to be a point guard. I guess I'll just have to look at my options."

  9. #34
    Aggie Hoopsfan
    Guest
    Manny,

    It was clear that Tony's agent was in his ear. Shouldn't our GM and coach be heading that off at the pass?

    And this little tidbit that Pop wasn't returning his calls?

    Who needs to grow up now?

    AHF

  10. #35
    o0drpill0o
    Guest
    I forgot about that. If Pop is too busy to talk to Tony about what's going on, then that IS a problem. Maybe Pop is just testing Tony's character, seeing how he reacts under adversity, but this is the kind of dumb ass military move that could easily backfire on the team...

    All I have to say is I hope Tony matures a bit, and I hope Pop knows what the he's doing...

  11. #36
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    I agree with Manny. The Spurs = Tim Duncan now. David Robinson has retired. The only player who deserves to have his ass kissed is TD.

    I doubt that Parker's temper tantrum cost the Spurs Kidd. The one thing Pop seems to hate more than anything is players talking through the media, though. It's not like the Spurs didn't consider replacing him with anything less than the best playmaker in the game.

    How long must Tim Duncan wait for Parker to develop? Is this Parker's team or Duncan's? Some of you seem to think differently than the guys with their jobs and $$$ on the line in the Spurs organization.

  12. #37
    o0drpill0o
    Guest
    Well said, MB. The reason this franchise is successful is that it is about winning, not about placating childish egos. If Parker really wants a trade I say we give it to him.

  13. #38
    ChumpDumper
    Guest
    You guys are a bunch of babies.

    How many times has Malik been offered up in a trade?

    Several.

    How many times have you heard him about it?

    Question.

    This can blow over and it likely will.

    I can't get over the Spur fans' need to micromanage every aspect of the team

  14. #39
    MissAllThat
    Guest
    I didn't know where to mention this, but this is the first thread I read so I guess it'll do. I just looked at today's paper here in my tiny little city in the Rio Grande Valley (for those of you that don't know, that's in Texas, right above Mexico) and much to my surprise at the top of the Sports section was a nice big article that said Jason Kidd decides to stay in NJ. Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised cuz I think everyone working for the newspaper is either a Laker fan or Mavs fan. There are definately no Spurs fans working for that stupid excuse for a newspaper. So anyway, at the end of the NJ article I saw that it said "What will the Spurs do now? (turn the page to find out)." I turned the page and there was an article about the Spurs options. I think the le was "The Spurs go back to the drawing board" and underneath that it said THE NBA CHAMPS STILL HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS THIS OFF-SEASON. Just so you know, my stupid paper doesn't write it's own stories, instead it chooses to pick ones from the Associated Press and just print those, but usually the ones they print have nothing good to say about the Spurs. I thought y'all might like to know that even my little podunk town (Charles thinks SA is Podunk, well he needs to come here) thinks the Spurs aren't screwed.

  15. #40
    timvp
    Guest
    I be pissed to if I were Tony. He helped with the Championship as the second best player and then the Spurs try to replace him. I'd be thinking "WTF? " as well.

    But, I don't blame either side in this scenario. Both did what they had to do.




    Business.

  16. #41
    Admiral
    Guest
    Why is it okay for the Spurs to pursue Kidd (it's "business," after all), but childish for Parker to be insulted? Whether you wanted Kidd or not, you have to admit that it was a tough position for Tony to be in.

    Parker is not a superstar yet, but he does need to be handled with care. He just turned 21, was the starting point guard on a championship team, and was a huge reason why we won. If not for some of his key second-half performances, our road would've been much different (and could've led to a different destination).

    Obtaining Kidd would've likely run Tony off. That would've been palatable since we would've still had Kidd. But now Parker still feels like the Spurs didn't want him, and Kidd said no. Why is it so hard for people to understand that offering a max contract to another point guard displays a lack of trust in the one you have? Whether or not the Spurs came out and said that publicly is a moot point. If the Spurs were happy with Parker as the starter, they wouldn't have pursued Kidd. It's that simple.

    Can't blame the Spurs for going after what they thought they needed, and can't blame Parker for being miffed. Hopefully this will blow over.

  17. #42
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    Oh come on Admiral. I suppose the Spurs should never look to improve their team because they might hurt someone's feelings.

  18. #43
    Admiral
    Guest
    As I said, Marcus, the Spurs were doing the right thing in that they thought Kidd was the guy to go after and they did it. I am glad our organization is like that, despite the fact that I personally did not want Kidd.

    What I have a problem with is the fact that some people are all upset that Parker isn't/wasn't excited about the idea of giving up his point guard spot to Jason Kidd. Some homers assumed that Parker would love the idea, would gladly slide over to shooting guard, and would be awesome at it (because, after all, he's a shoot-first PG and not a pass-first PG). That was a pipe dream - all of it.

    For those of us who didn't have on the blinders all along, the comments by Parker are no surprise. Hopefully he will get over it and we can move on - with a few free agents added that improve our talent level.

  19. #44
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    Well if the Spurs are going to worry about pissing someone off then they shouldn't plan on improving the team. Having "blinders" is a perfect description of those who assume that this team has what it needs now for the next 6 seasons to stay at a high level.

  20. #45
    Admiral
    Guest
    Having "blinders" is a perfect description of those who assume that this team has what it needs now for the next 6 seasons to stay at a high level. -Marcus Bryant


    Who has said that we don't need to make any changes to our current roster?

  21. #46
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    Then I've misread your argument that the Spurs don't need to make a change to this team. Go figure.

  22. #47
    ducks
    Guest
    admiral you should post some of this some places else

  23. #48
    MannyIsGod
    Guest
    It's not disrespectful. They were bringing in the best playmaker on the planet to play NEXT TO HIM, not replace him.

    They could not make it any clearer to him.

    I can see where tony would be upset since he is the pointguard and he is supposed to be the playmaker, but to be honest about it, he wasn't the playmaker last year. Tim Duncan was.

    This is about a 21 year olds ego. I know its hard for someone that young to put that ego aside and not take this as a slight, but I would hope that Sjax or Manu woudln't be offended if we brought in a Jason Kidd.

    This was not about Tony Parker being good enough or not, its obvious last year in last years system he was. But when you have a chance to improve your team with a player the caliber of Jason Kidd, you do it.

    This is a lesson Parker will learn farther down the line, when he realizes just how hard it is for a team to win championships in this leauge.

  24. #49
    Man in Black1
    Guest
    :brotha
    Preach it Manny...

    Okay, lets use this analogy,

    All of San Antonio loves Manu. If Manu was the starter(He should be, btw) and he just averaged 15 points, 5 rebs, 3 assists, & 2 steals per game to help the team win a championship, and TMac is a FA...Should Pop not pursue that?
    Lets go a step beyond, he asks Manu to slide to SF but in reality, its a true swingman position and he is able to move back & front court positions depending upon play sets and D alignments? Would that be a problem?

    I'm curious as to how you would answer that?

  25. #50
    IcemanCometh
    Guest
    dude most of these people wouldn't trade manu for tmac right now

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