Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 145
  1. #26
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    103
    I agree anymore than 7 million is to much.

  2. #27
    Veteran Atl Spur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Post Count
    4,608
    Find a way to get jerami grant.

  3. #28
    Veteran mo7888's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Post Count
    6,909
    I don't value cap space next year as much as most. With so many other teams having space and being more desirable destinations the price for FA's will be high and franchises will be crippled with overpays on bad contracts. That said, I'd still be hesitant to pay $10M for Jakob. $8M would be fine...the market will be interesting though. A S&T with a team like Boston might make sense if they are willing to send back Williams and a pick.

  4. #29
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Post Count
    1,045
    Find a way to get jerami grant.
    he would fit so good if we continue to play super up tempo like we did in bubble

  5. #30
    Veteran Dejounte's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    15,644
    I agree, anything more than $6 or $7 million is too much for a back-up big. If we trade Aldridge somehow (hopefully for a starting level PF), then I can see it.

  6. #31
    Lol Crews jjktkk's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Post Count
    6,420
    https://www.spurstalk.com/overview-w...o-free-agency/

    It seems like most Spurs fans are willing to go higher on Poeltl's contract than I am. I think I've settled on $7 million being my max.
    Thanks for the writeup. Any particular bigs you have in mind for a "suitable replacement for around $5 million"?

  7. #32
    Veteran Atl Spur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Post Count
    4,608
    I don't value cap space next year as much as most. With so many other teams having space and being more desirable destinations the price for FA's will be high and franchises will be crippled with overpays on bad contracts. That said, I'd still be hesitant to pay $10M for Jakob. $8M would be fine...the market will be interesting though. A S&T with a team like Boston might make sense if they are willing to send back Williams and a pick.
    I too think Boston is up to something; I hope we are in on it....

  8. #33
    Veteran Dejounte's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    15,644
    Find a way to get jerami grant.
    I don't think we're going to do anymore of these big commitment signings to free agents. Not without knowing their character, and not in this economic climate. I'm thinking they believe in their own process of growing their own player vs getting one in free agency, unless they come really cheap...

  9. #34
    Like I said... tmtcsc's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    7,148
    https://www.spurstalk.com/overview-w...o-free-agency/

    It seems like most Spurs fans are willing to go higher on Poeltl's contract than I am. I think I've settled on $7 million being my max.
    "— and there’s no evidence that San Antonio is willing to (or, even, knows how to) make moves on the trade market."


  10. #35
    You Are Not Worthy ZeusWillJudge's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2019
    Post Count
    4,926
    I want them to COMMIT to something. If they're going to let Poeltl walk over cap space, then commit to maxing cap space next season. I'm fine with that, but don't turn right around and piss off a bunch of cap space on someone else.

    As far as Poeltl is concerned, I valued his block parties a lot more than you appear to TIMVP. You never talk about it, but he was really active with the blocks, and he wasn't just swatting them into the 5th row - the Spurs were getting possessions out of a lot of them. I don't think you can just ignore that. And I think he could get more points if used properly. Maybe a "traditional" center can't be used 30 minutes per game, but on a per-36 basis he was averaging a double-double as an offensive afterthought. And 2.9 blocks.

    I'm not saying keep Poeltl, but he's probably a better value than some of the others. If they're going to let him walk, then they damned well better be laser-focused on next year and cap space.

  11. #36
    Like I said... tmtcsc's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    7,148
    Is there anyone on the roster that could be classified as a "Dog"? I mean that in the compe ive sense. I don't see it. I think KJ plays with compe ive juice but does it really kill him when the team loses? That's what this team really lacks - players who get pissed when they lose and have the ability to raise their game to a higher level in order to win or close an opponent out.

    Manu had it and so did Tim.

  12. #37
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    10,246
    Re capspace next summer it highly depends on strategy. if the hope is landing free agents, I’m not holding my breath. In contrast if the goal is to be a dumping ground for turdly contracts in exchange for future picks, then I see the value. If the latter, there is no need to wait until next summer though— they should move expirings now.

  13. #38
    Veteran Dejounte's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    15,644
    We'll have a hole at the PF spot and Giannis is a PF... just saying...

  14. #39
    The Great Eight Ocotillo's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Post Count
    4,029
    Regarding 2021 cap space, that is because Derozan and Aldridge are off the books (obviously) but all of a sudden, there is not only a void in salary, there will be a lot of minutes freed up. This season will determine which of the young guns steps in and absorbs those minutes. Add to that, Pop may finally give up the reins and this coming off season will be like no other in recent memory.

  15. #40
    Veteran offset formation's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    5,729
    BRING BACK BAYNES
    He does most everything Poeltl does and he can shoot from beyond 6 feet.

  16. #41
    Believe.
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Post Count
    632
    The most important parts will be minutes. If Poeltl gets his minutes (at least 25+), than you can give him 10 mil/4 years. It will be in his Prime of the career and for non allstar Centers, he is definitly the best. As a Defensive Anchor he is just tremendous. All stats indicate that Spurs defensive was MUCH MUCH better with him on the court. Also unlike most, i dont think he has reached his cealing. There are parts like three Throw and Foul Trouble, that can be worked on and would improve his value. Also 10 mil is not much down the line. Its just an odd year, but the cap will rise again.

    But i fear, that Spurs will keep LMA, if thats the case, he will look to go somewhere else. He played 2 years behind LMA, getting not much playing time, while watching Forbes beeing Forbes with 30+ mins.

  17. #42
    Believe.
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Post Count
    632
    He does most everything Poeltl does and he can shoot from beyond 6 feet.
    Can he anchor a defense ? - NO
    Is he better as a screener? - NO
    Is he a better Rimprotector? - NO

    Just 3 things, that prove your statement false.

  18. #43
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Post Count
    1,036
    I doubt there will be a market for Jakob. You can find talent like Grant(albeit for a bit more), Noel, baynes, hermangomez, cauley-stein, biyombo, and mahinmi for half the price and give you enough production to be happy about your decision to not bring Jakob back.

    Off the bench. Of course. I'm operating under the assumption that lamarcus will return
    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/center/

  19. #44
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Post Count
    375
    Good intel in the recent front page posts. I appreciated the information about Vassel's secret workout and the hustle for Haliburton. Quality.

    The offseason projection seems spot on to me, except for the Poeltl number. I'd pay ~10M for him, give or take, if, for no other reason, than he has trade value. The other thing I disagree with is that the Spurs will be able to land a max free agent with cap room. I'd not bet on it. Cap room is only helpful to Spurs in that it should help lubricate trade talks.

    At trade deadline, Poeltl should be able to fetch a first in the late teens or 20s for a playoff team with defensive needs. But to the OP's point, this trade value diminishes per million in salary paid to him this offseason.

    There are many ways the Spurs could remain compe ive, even get back to the playoffs, this season. Chinook has proposed several trade ideas that make the team compe ive. I don't think this should be their focus, however. Their focus should be player development--if they win, great. If not, you accept the losses.

    If the Spurs make player development the priority, they should not let players with trade value go without getting something for them. Poeltl has some trade value. Lyles would have deadline value (late first or pair of seconds) if he shoots well the first half of the season. , I'd try to sign and trade Forbes into a TPE for a second round pick.

    Unfortunately, the expiring contracts of Aldridge, DeRozan, Mills, and Gay might hold the most value at trade deadline for teams that are in tax prison. The Warriors could be fighting for the 8th seed with a 70M tax bill and lackluster future. Perhaps they'd take on Aldridge and DeRozan for Wiggins and Oubre and pair of firsts to get out of prison. Which means we spend our cap room taking on contracts other people don't want in order to stack draft picks.

    Holding onto the vets in hopes of moving them at deadline might be the best path.


    In the example above, I don't think the team would be any worse if swapped out Wiggins and Oubre for DeRozan and Aldridge. But it would lose its cap space.

  20. #45
    Veteran offset formation's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    5,729
    Can he anchor a defense ? - NO
    Is he better as a screener? - NO
    Is he a better Rimprotector? - NO

    Just 3 things, that prove your statement false.
    Actually, no it doesn't. Re-read what I wrote, but with more attention this time.

    Most doesn't equal all. Nor does it say as good as.

    He does all of those things at a high enough level and can also stretch the floor a bit. He's a very capable screener. He's a very capable shot blocker. And ask Boston and Phoenix how much he meant to their teams. They love him. Especially in Boston.

    So do you overpay one at 9M, which is what he's looking for reportedly, or get one for 5M or 6M?

    Easy choice, imo.

  21. #46
    Veteran KobesAchilles's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Post Count
    4,089
    How do we sign Gordon Hayward? He's an UFA now. Let's get him. The West has never been weaker

  22. #47
    Veteran Atl Spur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Post Count
    4,608
    I don't value cap space next year as much as most. With so many other teams having space and being more desirable destinations the price for FA's will be high and franchises will be crippled with overpays on bad contracts. That said, I'd still be hesitant to pay $10M for Jakob. $8M would be fine...the market will be interesting though. A S&T with a team like Boston might make sense if they are willing to send back Williams and a pick.
    I too think Boston is up to something; I hope we are in on it....

  23. #48
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Post Count
    375
    How do we sign Gordon Hayward? He's an UFA now. Let's get him. The West has never been weaker
    Our only option is a sign and trade. But who do we have that Boston would want, and would Gordon prefer to play in San Antonio than NYC?

  24. #49
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Post Count
    375
    Our only option is a sign and trade. But who do we have that Boston would want, and would Gordon prefer to play in San Antonio than NYC?
    Also, do we really want Gordon Hayward?

  25. #50
    Spurs Sage Russ's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    9,565
    What the San Antonio Spurs Should Plan to Do Heading Into Free Agency?
    In the words of Jack Nicholson in "Chinatown" -- "As little as possible."

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •