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He won’t be a superstar, but you can plug him into your lineup for a decade and get top level offensive production, and hopefully at least passable defense.
To steal a team’s RFA, you have to go with a max offer.
I'd be in favor of throwing a max contract at Collins tbh. Maybe Timmy can help with the recruiting process with the Wake Forest connection. But I'd say the chances of the Spurs landing him would be pretty slim. Markkanen is probably a more likely target (though still unlikely) and should be a little bit cheaper tbh.
He won’t be a superstar, but you can plug him into your lineup for a decade and get top level offensive production, and hopefully at least passable defense.
To steal a team’s RFA, you have to go with a max offer.
Give him the max. We are losing LMA. Poetl can’t score. We need someone to make up the scoring production and he seems like an ideal fit tbh
I'd give up a lottery protected first at this point. Spurs are a bubble team, and need talent, but also have a ton of past picks already tied up on the roster, and unless someone is going back, we can skip a draft and improve from within
Gotcha. Quick fun fact - His uncle lives here in San Antonio. Unlike a certain other Uncle, this guy is a very nice, honorable man.
A lot of teams will offer him the max tbh, but I wonder if ATL matches it.
Collins would be a nice get but I just don't see him coming to SA, doesn't seem like a "Spurs guy."
Don't know if you saw my post in the other thread but I mentioned that he has the same agent as LaMarcus. You just know his agent was on the phone with SA after Atlanta lowballed them.
Too many connections there for it not to be a strong possibility.
I would not give up a protected first for any player as we are one injury away from being worst team in the NBA
Get it done PATFO
Yup. Collins fills a big need for this team and $29M/yr got him is good value when compared to what others are getting lately. It’s really a no brainer for the spurs...or at least should be
Is this legit? Or just rumor?
I‘m on board. Try to get him. Also he’s still young so there is room for development especially on defense. I bet he‘ll look much better playing next to Poeltl and Keldon
That’s why it’s protected. If we fall into the lottery, we keep the pick, and the payout is deferred another year, or maybe two in some cases
Standing reach is pedestrian. Just there for the offense? He's a true stretch 5 and rebounding machine? I don't really watch the East much.
Not a rumor. I spoke to him myself a couple of years ago at a basketball training session for our kids. His son was at the same workout as mine - working out @ Alamo City Christian Fellowship gym. Proud uncle.
Wow. Great inside info thanks. Hopefully the uncle has some influence on Collins
starting from that level of demand, your list of "not mediocre" players must be incredibly small (like 20 players or something)
which player are we talking about here?
Literally no one. There's no one guy on the team that can be removed, and make us bottom-feeder levels of bad. Do people here even watch other teams besides the Spurs?
Yeah, he's a dynamic scorer and solid rebounder, but I'm not sure to what extent he drives winning. As you alluded to, he basically doesn't have a natural defensive position in the modern NBA, which makes him a difficult piece to win big with.
On the other hand, he's probably the absolute apex of what they could conceivably do in free agency and the rest of the youth would theoretically compliment him well.
Mediocre was an overstatement, granted. He's a better than league average player. But he's not an All Star. Even in the East, not an All Star. And All Star voting doesn't account much for defense, and Collins is a subpar defender.
If the Spurs add Collins, fine. But he won't make the team better than it is now, especially if he's just replacing one or more of Gay/Aldridge/DeRozan.
Here's a very good article with some defensive clips.
https://www.si.com/nba/hawks/news/jo...satile-weapons
I actually think he'd fit in perfect. Gets most of his points in the flow of the offense, can score from anywhere on the floor, brings some weakside shotblocking which is what I've been wanting from the 4 spot for years and can switch defensively. The only knock is him not being a good passer and the max would definitely be an overpay. He's definitely more of a 4 and not a 5.
No to Collins for absurd money; Luka I’m optimistically feeling will be better long term. We will exercise patience.....
Collins is an excellent young player that can still improve and would fit in well with the young core. He’d easily be an all-star on the spurs. $29M is about right for him. Right now we pay DDR $27M, we pay LMA $25M and pay Mills/Gay $27M. Paying Collins $29M is better use of our money then those contracts.
I'm feeling the same way about Collins. I like Lauri probably about as much and if I could pry him from Chicago for less $$ I might try that. I also wouldn't be against trying to pry Precious from Miami if they happen to have an interest in acquiring Aldridge this year.
I would have rather make a run at Wood this year for half the money. Now you need to see if Luka develops IMO.
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