Pat Robertson is evidence that God has a sense of humor.
Oh great. Liberals and others who cried foul when they spotted slippery slope arguments on gay marriage, now are using the same tool to advance their belief.
Pat Robertson is evidence that God has a sense of humor.
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I dont have the slightest clue as to what the you mean.
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Last edited by DarkReign; 11-11-2005 at 02:00 PM.
post it in the gtown thread
Gtown actually has a point, sort of, with regards to the slippery slope... ID should not be rejected based on the fear that it will open the door to Creationism.
Of course, that's a very small part of the argument against ID. The reason it should be kept out of Science class is because it's not Science.
Sure it's science. It explains how the universe was started.
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Wait a minute! He told me He loved me.
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PR spouts crap that his fans (aka $contributors) want to hear.
People really suck his down, and believe it.
I think he is one of the most dangerous men in society today.
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he is about as bad as jesse jackson have a love in with hugo chavez... lol
shhh. don't say that or god will hear you.
Pat Robertson is only proof that God has a sphincter, and he lets go occasionally.
What he runs there at the 700 club cannot be called anything but a cult. His little acolytes would believe that the sky was red if he told them it was.
You should edit it again to "I don't have a clue."
Anyway, you did. You just were studdering about defending yourself once you were caught being a hypocrite for calling out conseravites own slippery slope arguments.
Don't try it again.
Pat Robertson really hurts the good Christians out there with his remark about taking out President Chavez. I find him to be an off-the-wall person. But why should you liberals out there get all worked up about this latest remark. After all, you believe there is no heaven, no below us and above only sky. Maybe you do believe in god?
I do take exception to you being the one to call him insane dan. Many of your views seem just as extreme on the other side of the political/religious aisle as Robertson's do to you.
That being said God hears the call of those who seek him in a humble, heartfelt way, he doesn't mute an entire city because of perceived injustices against him by some. Consider the following;
Abraham was told by God that He was going to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah because of their sexual immorality and perversion.
Abraham became an advocate for the people of that city and prayed to God and asked him to spare the city if he could find 50 righteous people in the city, God agreed to do so.
Abraham continued to beseech God on their behalf and continued to ask God to spare the city, at different times lowering the number of righteous people he could find in the city to 45, 40, 20 and finally 10, God agreed each time. (10 righteous were not to be found)
The point is that God was willing to spare an entire city because of the prayers of just one.
With that in mind it would seem out of line for Pat to suggest that God would ignore the prayers of those in a city because they had voted to oust school board members that were against the teaching of Creationism in the Schools.
Conclusions:
-God has patience with people but that patience is not without end when cir stances become extreme.
-God will respond to a minority view.
I think what ROberts was basically saying is that even though GOd is merciful, he's not a cosmic santa clause. God will judge everyone of us by his own will. People can't expect God's mercy on one hand and then reject him on another. It doesn't work that way.
If it did work that way, then GOd is just our genie in a bottle and we're his master.
So close, and yet, so far.
oh great,. the poor man's Mo rocca.
Look, no matter what your interpretation is, defending Pat Robertson is similar to arguing that the KKK might have some kind of valid cause when they assemble. You may be right, but why bother? It's Pat ing Robertson.
We'd all be better of if he were simply ignored.
Cuz i don't think Pat Robertson is an evil guy. And how could you compare a man who has fed many starving children and has helped relieve poor countries with the KKK.
His worse crime was that he suggested the US should assasinate Hugo Chavez.(HE didnt say he'd do it under his own will. That is unlawful since a christian personally is not supposed to take vengeance into his own hands.) Big whipptee do. Honestly do you care? Even though he's christian, he's also a private citizen who has views on world politics. Even after all the hate from libs, he's left of center of john mccain on economic issues.
The way i interpret this Roberts bashing, is that it's a condemnation towards any evangelical christian who has an asshole. Affuential Evangelical Christians according to the media have no right to oppine on foreign affairs or any issue. One can imagine them saying,..[ "They're better kept just telling the masses to raise their hands, say "i believe", shake them knees, and say "allelujah!", "PTL and pass the hings!". Because you know, if them crazy snake handlers ever oppine on policy, they'll demand that the public take personal responsibility for their actions, and we can't have that can we? No way!THey can run the aisles, play gospel, eat at Golden Corral on sundays, but they can stay away from influencing the public..]
I mean, i just look at this and conclude that the media has a hatred towards social conservative christians. You look at Pat's misdeeds, and you'll notice he's never excommunicated anyone from church for their view on abortion or anything; Never compared a politician to a segregationist like Charles Rangel did, never called the democrats terrorist sympathizers or anything evil. He just saw his ooposition as misguided.
This whole ordeal was just an oppurtunity for leftist to bash evangelical figures. You and i know that if one was an evangelical christian, he/she would have to wear proverbial "mittens" when defending their beliefs.
Pat say's "You can't expect to take advantage of God's grace and then ask for help when it suits you.", and the media lashes at him because he's supposed to examplify a fictional ultra pacifist christian. Even though christian doctrine teaches about both unlimited grace as well as consequences for sin, the media in order to discredit Robertson apply only one tenet for him to oppine about. I mean what is Roberts supposed to say, "Oh don't worry people of Dover, God is our santa clause, you can deny him and he'll be there for us like a loyal cannine, to do anything we please." ..No!
He's a man of scripture, along with knowing that he's not perfect himself, he knows that His God is a righteous God and wont stand by and continue to let us take advantage of his grace. As a christian he will speak his mind. If you think of it, what's the difference of wether he says it in private or in public. One is ok and the other is anathema? Cmon! The criticism is getting so virile that even chicken christian conservatives are distancing from Pat Robertson, even though they privately agree with him at the same time.
Screw perceptions. If Robertson because of his faith cannot have a political oppinion asking of a removal of state, then that means that if an evangelical were to win office, he'd have to recuse himself if we were attacked by a nation and had to retaliate... Because after all, doesn't the bible say to "turn the other cheek."
This is ridiculous.
Last edited by gtownspur; 11-13-2005 at 02:23 AM.
Robertson is a Pharisee. There's a hot place in for people who use religion for money and political influence.
^If he has used his money for gain then he will be judged. You and i don't know that, i think you just have a preconcieved idea of all evangelicals wich is totally false. I'm not one myself but i dont generalize them the way you do. There's some good and some bad. WE don't know anything about him personally. IF he's guilty of being a hypocrite that's between him and God at the moment. As far as political influence, the pope uses his image for political influence, is he gonna rot?
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