Reply With Quotei forgot to mention speedy too... that trade would have never been made if speedy's contract had gone beyond last year.
Looks like I struck a nerve, huh, Chump?
I still think Kidd is coming to SA as absurd as that may sound right now.
i forgot to mention speedy too... that trade would have never been made if speedy's contract had gone beyond last year.
I'm not upset that we have all this money to spend, but the way the Spurs have gone about trying to spend it as of right now is a little upsetting (ok, maybe a lot). I wouldn't mind getting PJ Brown, Brad Miller, and/or Corey Maggette. I would have prefered that the Spurs had gone after Malone and Gary, but the Lakers obviously thought the same way I did and went after the two (although I thought they'd want more money, props to them cuz they really do wanna win unlike Jason who says he wants to win, but I don't see him ever going and signing for the minimum for the good of the team). I think the Spurs can still do something good with their cap room this off-season and if they can't, well then they might as well just sign nobody and wait till next year. I think the current team we have can be good for many, many, years. They might not be a lock for a championship every year, but I like surprises and I do think that this group of guys could contend for the next decade. If we only get Jason Kidd, I'll feel like this whole thing was a waste, and then I'll be pissed, but I'm gonna wait and see what happens.
Temple, Mercer is better than Smitty. Artest is Bowen with the benefit of an offensive skill set. Did Smitty or Bowen hold back either Manu or Jack this year?
No.
Next.
Yeah I get pissed when you lie about what I said.Looks like I struck a nerve, huh, Chump?
Don't lie and I won't get pissed.
It's pretty simple.
We still have far more options than you seem to consider.
No Chump, it's all over. See Ghost never wanted the Spurs to pursue a superstar this summer but he's hoping that Kidd signs now. Of course, he still maintains that the Spurs suck because they never pursue superstar free agents but he's hoping that the Spurs don't sign Kidd. Give him 5 minutes and I'm sure these positions will change again.
adidas if this were a normal year even if the Spurs hadn't attracted a superstar they could have picked up a couple of very good second tier players and been top contenders.
Things have changed and this is a very anomalous year. Shaq acted like a fat slob the last couple of years and now he got down on his knees and begged a couple of buddies to play for maid's wages to help him get his manhood back. Amazingly these two agreed to play for peanuts. How often does that happen. I sure hope Shaq is slipping some of his $20 million or so under the table to Payton and Malone for carrying his jock for him or Shaq a lot smarter and Payton and Malone a lot stupider than I gave them credit for.
So bottomline in a normal year without Shaq begging Payton and Maloneit's Holt-ing would have been fine and the Spurs could have done a great job of reloading. I don't think you can measure success against Shaq's blowjobs to his buddies.
The "Holting Pattern" was rendered chaff with the "Accidental Championship" (jk).
The Spurs got their NBA Championship in spite of the rebuilding strategy put in place prior to 2003-04. The Spurs get over and the rest of the world...well, they must get over IT.
The Spurs are now in the same position they had hoped to be in at this time last year...but in the +1 side for notches on the Old Championship Belt.
I thought the goal was to be as compe ive as possible with the resources you have. The Spurs won the 2002-3 le. How could a Spurs fan be unhappy with that?Since this HOLTING PATTERN started a couple of years ago, and we kept hearing how this was the Spurs big opportunity to land the coveted 2nd superstar, now that the final results are almost in, does everyone feel it has been worth it, or not? What are your opinions on how things have turned out?
With that context, the current free agent season is frustrating. It won't be doom for the Spurs if Kidd doesn't sign with the Spurs, but it will be a frustration that NO LIMIT 2003 was off by one year (otherwise, Brand is ours). It is doubly frustrating to see the Lakers get Payton and Malone for cheap. Anybody can put together a great team if you get all-stars at the average salary or less. What's the compe ion in that? The Spurs would have paid $10M more to these jokers if they could have waited.
Exactly Solid. That's what this has always been about. Life without DRob. Maybe Ghost thinks that a nutter like Ron Artest is the perfect second star for the Spurs, but apparently Pop and RC thought differently.rebuilding strategy
Sure, if the Spurs could find a franchise player who wanted to join them in SA they would welcome him. If not the Spurs still have plenty of other talent to pursue as well as trades to explore.
what kind of crap is this ghost? of course i would have taken mercer and artest for smitty... but we can't say that we would have won a championship with them... especially considering the kind of cancer artest has turned into.Temple, Mercer is better than Smitty. Artest is Bowen with the benefit of an offensive skill set. Did Smitty or Bowen hold back either Manu or Jack this year?
No.
Next.
smitty's contract ending this year is one of the reasons we let manu play as much as we did... speedy was brought in as a backup in a trade because his contract was up this year too... those were just some of the reasons we won it all last year... not trades we never made... and yes... they were a direct result of the holting pattern
next? please...
Yep. The Spurs have rebuilt the core with young, talented, athletic players and gotten Tim to agree to a long-term Max deal, left themselves plenty of flexibility (so far) and won a championship, to boot.
Let's see now...what's disappointing about that?
resign our FAs and sign PJ Brown sounds ok with me
if Kidd doesnt sign with the Spurs.
PJ Brown = David Robinson of 02, maybe a tad better.
Bringinging back Speedy, Jack, Manu, Parker and the young foreign Legion would be a great move, and sign a couple vet mins to replace Ferry Bateer, and were lookin at ring numero Dos. :eyebrow
I wish I knew, Solid D. I wish I knew.
I think they should have gone hard after Gary Payton. If Kidd stays in New Jersey this offseason is a total bust. The Spurs had the money AND a le contender to offer GP, but they never seemed too interested in him. Now that he's in LA the Spurs are in serious trouble if they don't either get a commitment from Kidd or have some good dirt on Sterling to force him to not match on Brand.
i know what sucks archie... what sucks is that no matter what we do this offseason, if we don't get kidd we're going to look like ass-clowns.
16 million, tim duncan, and a championship... and you can't get a guy who's been on almost as many teams as chucky brown... even if he is an "all star"
the fakers meanwhile, have $2 and whatever falls out of fatass' pockets and pick up a 20pt a night guy... and a 10board a night guy...
it does look bad... but whatever.
bbum...one possibility is to look for deal to get a proven perimeter scorer. Not sure what that would be but there are other possibilities.
Sprewell, Eddie Jones, or Jalen Rose is about all I see on the block. Any of those I would consider a bust.
Then offer to take on some unwanted contracts to facilitate a trade?
Can we act as a conduit for Arenas to a team over the salary cap that he might want to go to for a player we like?
That's like what timvp suggested with Golden St. If there is a team that wants to go under the cap the Spurs can do that...for a fee.
I don't see anyone I'm too happy with that's on the block right now. Gasol would be closest, but will cost us Parker and Ginobili at least.
it would take guts to go after a guy like odom... at the very least, you'd make the clips commit long term to a guy they've always wanted to treat as a project...
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i knew a girl named no limit amy once.
the spurs could look for deals that contracts end again
spree has a one or 2 year deal left ?
but trading for those players might be difficult
Golden State would seem like a good team to work with. Others could be Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Memphis.
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