Kidd has been making a host of demands on NJ since arriving back there. I just don't see the point of making them if he isn't planning to stay. But stranger things have happened.
Ghost, there are many auxillary plans. Spurs' brass was meeting late yesterday discussing many alternatives. Things that might have after Kidd signs. Things that might happen if Kidd doesn't sign at all.
Now, however, Kidd may have placed Scott's job atop a figurative list of demands that includes Mourning's signing, the re-signing of Lucious Harris, and an eventual contract extension for Kenyon Martin. Thorn had planned to discuss a contract extension with Scott this summer, but even if he and Kidd both stayed, Scott could end up coaching as a lame duck, his security hanging by only the final year of his contract.
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All that sounds doable for NJ. It's time for the Spurs to cut the cord. They've given it their best shot.
Scott is toast...Thorne will meet all the demands...apparently Jersey has already matched the Dallas offer for Zo...If Zo really comes back at 100% and they do everything else Kidd has requested NJ becomes the immediate favorite to win the east and at the very least compe ive in the finals...that will be a damn good team.
BTW (to those who are wondering), I have no additional info more than I had last night at 11:00 pm. I will probably hear more after 2:00pm. I'll call a chat if it's significant.
It's similar to the situation that GS had with Webber and Don Nelson.
GS lost both and have been reeling ever since.
Scott is more replacable than Kidd in the Net's eyes.
It doesn't hurt anything to leave the Kidd offer on the table till Monday but you are right...All that sounds doable for NJ. It's time for the Spurs to cut the cord. They've given it their best shot.
fuhgeddabout Kidd...he ain't leavin....
Like I said...
Kidd is stringing us out til' Monday because of Alonzo Mourning.
He knows if things don't work out with him we'll turn to the "next tier" which will include guys like Zo.
So he flirts with us until NJ gets Mourning in and gets him to commit to playing with his bud Jason Kidd, and then JK gives us the finger.
As Archie said, it's time to cut our losses and move on.
AHF
I thought zo was suppose to come this weekend though?
I guess he really is using us
I think kidd wants to play with zo not duncan
Assuming that all of these demands by Kidd are correct, I can't figure out Kidd's motivations here. He has clearly stated that he want to be on a championship team. I don't see how firing Scott will help. I don't see how keeping Lucious Harris will help. I don't see how signing Donny Marshall will help.
Firing Scott will kill any short-term chances. There is no Phil Jackson around to hire. Would RIck Carlisle do any better?
Demanding bit players and less than bit players is just plain silly. It is obvious that Jason is not GM material. How is Donny Marshall going to help win a championship?
If Kidd is going to leave the Nets, then he should just leave. If Kidd wants a le, his best chances are to sign with the Spurs.
spurster,
Add to those demands a position in the Nets organization once he retires. And of course the Lewinsky-esque internship with whatever media outlet in NYC for Jumanji.
These are the demands of someone who knows where he wants to be and is comfortable with not necessarily winning a championship, despite the lip service to that goal.
rick the coach the pistons is still avaible I think he would be a better coach then say scott.
Where'd you here Zo was coming to visit? That's a huge sign if true, he hasn't visited anywhere.I thought zo was suppose to come this weekend though?
I've seen it reported (believe either NY Times or SA E-N) that Mourning will be visiting this weekend.
Well, that should be a good sign for Spurs fans...Kidd wants to play with Zo, Zo wants to play with Kidd. They both want to go to a contender. Zo hasn't left Miami to visit with any team, if he is that's showing major interest. have a link?
spurster -
The rhetoric about winning a ring from Kidd is all part of his bluff on New Jersey to get what he wants.
He has to make them feel incredibly threatened that he will walk to SA.
It's all part of the game.
AHF
Could someone please tell me why they are surprised that Kidd would leverage the Spurs wanting him to get an improved situation for himself with his current team?
Some of you are genuinely taken aback by this.
Kidd didn't make these demands before, because he needed SA to show serious interest first.
That's what leverage is all about.
And Kidd is not going to ask for the 7th year, because he knows that isn't doable. He wants to re-sign with NJ so long as they up the ante, If not, he comes to us.
Kidd is torn between SA and NJ.
Kidd is giving his current employer the benefit of the doubt. If they meet his demands, he stays. If they don't, he goes to his other suitor. This happens everyday in the business world. He's not making impossible demands that the Nets can't meet, because he'll be happy to re-sign with NJ with these additional provisons.
Relax, people.
By Monday we'll know if the Nets are going to raise the bar and re-sign Kidd.
It's out of our hands now.
No one's surprised. This was a known possibility coming in to this summer. It's the price you have to pay to have a shot at ensuring Duncan has a great teammate to play with once DRob retired.
People in this thread — youself included — want to give up on Kidd (and Brand for that matter) just because of a little back-and-forth negotiating. If you guys were prepared for this, you wouldn't be giving up during the bargaining period.
why do you think duncan is trying to meet him in new jersey?
it is because they are afraid of not signing kidd
I want to call Kidd's bluff. Why? All signs point to him re-signing with the Nets.
Wow, ducks. I just figured the Duncans and the Kidds were getting together for an orgy.
Kidd asks the Nets to up the ante to keep him from going to SA and everyone's up in arms, ready to quit.
Incredible.
Look at what he is asking for, Ghost. Are any of his reported 'demands' something the Nets can't or won't do?
Give Kidd till whatever day....tell him to take it or leave it.
If he doesnt respond, cut your losses and move on.
NOt a ing thing you can do about it. No need to be strung along by Kidd.
you spend 2 years going to the finals and not winning... and it isn't going to get much better in nj... you see one of your oldest and closest friends sign with the lakers for less money (and he's only 5 years older) - meanwhile you can get the same amount of money from san antonio... and still... he wants to negotiate?
there's nothing to negotiate here. he's been offered as much money as he can by both clubs... now there's a leak about wanting byron fired... if theirs any negotiations they're between nj and kidd, not the spurs.
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