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Trade for Harrison Barnes, 28, an ACTUAL combo forward, not a guard masquerading as such, and he provides 3 point shooting, and puts up 16.1p 6.6r 3.5a. You’d need to pick up 5.5p 0r and 3.5a in the aggregate.
I hope that next season it won’t be noticed (like it is this year) that our 3&D draft pick, the highest draft pick spent on a guard since Willie Anderson in 1988, can’t shoot 3s. One can only hope that he will eventually get a jumper
Trade for Harrison Barnes, 28, an ACTUAL combo forward, not a guard masquerading as such, and he provides 3 point shooting, and puts up 16.1p 6.6r 3.5a. You’d need to pick up 5.5p 0r and 3.5a in the aggregate.
This season is all but over for us. What we do know right now is that nobody knows whats going to happen for next season. DeRozen, Millis , Rudy and others may be gone or they may be back (hopefully not all of them ) Pop may not be back, according to to some pounders he's getting too old and senile we just don't know --he's been through alot. We do know we will have the 11th - 15th pick in the draft most likely and we have to make the absolute best pick to help the team reasonably soon and not someone that's two years away from being two years away. Drafting Devin and Trey were good choices. Not home runs but definitely two doubles.
We know that the team should have a decent amount of cap space so lets sign some decent role players (no all stars available) and play our brains out. No I don't think we'll be championship contenders next year, but with some decent signings (no more Gasol type signings) and a little bit of luck in the draft we can do better than the last two years and keep moving forward.
I'm a realist so I know small steps are more likely than big leaps. Again nobody knows the future but we can sure do things to point ourselves in the right direction to get us to a better future, one that doesn't include us landing in the lottery year after year.
It's hard to say, because we don't know what a spread floor with White, Johnson & Murray looks like. Swapping DD with Vassell at the 3 would likely give us a top 5 defense, but limited shot creation. Launching 40 3's per game probably wouldn't be the worst thing with that lineup.
A lot of folks on here are going to miss Demar. Lmao.
he definitely doesn’t fit the current way this team is constructed but the folks on here trying to say he is a bad player is really being asinine in my opinion. He definitely is flawed but the guy is a good player and really good at what he does. We have no player who finishes as well as he does at the hoop, creates offense for themselves or others as well as he does and that is going to be missed if he leaves.
I’m not advocating for him to stay on a big deal but I will say that a lot of folks on here are delusional if they think this team is going to be better(barring a major off season signing of draft steal) without Demar next season.
Do you really believe that Vassell can't shoot?
His shooting splits on 3s per month:
Dec: 43%, Jan: 39%, Feb: 40%, March: 44% then dipping to 32% in April and 21% in May. He shot 35% from 3 for the season and ended it mired in a shooting slump.
I put this down more to fatigue, inconsistent usage, play etc. That all sounds eerily similar to a rookie wall.
He would be good on a le team as a third option which would have been the spurs several years ago when they had Kawhi/LMA. This team will be an even worse team without him but I won't miss him. It was a waste of time to trade for him few years ago. Spurs delayed the rebuild for a few years by acquiring him.
Factor in Covid having an effect. I have heard from Celtic fans that they felt Covid stunted Tatum for a period of time this year and it took him a while to get his mojo back.
This is our destiny. The Spurs have been on top for a number of years. It's time we learn what every team deals with and that's being a failing lottery team. Eventually, the Spurs will return back to the promise land
You cannot ascertain that something can't happen in the future because it hasn't happened in the past. Thankfully, that's not how life works. A lot of championship teams haven't had a #1 pick leading the horses - and moreover, the better constant for predicting championship-level core pieces is always a good drafting ability by a given FO, moreso than drafting position. That's how the Kangz stay Kangz, despite a decade and a half of top picks, whilst teams with far less lottery resources manage to consistently put together compe ive (championship or otherwise, it's just luck at that point) teams - see Portland, Indiana, Miami.
Ehh, I'm not that pessimistic at all regarding our chances to get back to the top. My hot take is the Spurs will find themselves in a WCF within the next 5 years. Again, it's all about the teams making the most with less, and not those loaded with resources necessarily, and the Spurs FO, for all their misgivings, are still above-average in numerous departments including drafting, and have a lot of options they could go for in the next few years. And before SpursTalk Expert GMs™ go on about how they're gonna everything up, remember y'all were also swearing up and down that we'd be re-signing Forbes and Beli. That didn't happen... And there's no reason the Spurs can't manage to draft and put together a solid team in a couple years' time.
As for being a sub-500 team, of course that ain't gonna get us a ring. But I don't really see the Spurs trotting out the same team next season (with DD being a FA, it isn't even entirely up to them), so the state of the team currently is of little interest to predict how the next few years are gonna pan out. We have a core of players that could perfectly compliment a rising star... And it's fine if you wanna call me a homer for this, but I much rather trust the Spurs find it at whichever pick in the draft they get, than some other team like Sacramento or Orlando with a top pick.
Spurs will be worse without Demar since he's the closest they have to a "star." But you don't reward that with a max contract when he plays 90's style basketball and barely keeps this team at a below .500 record. Just delaying the inevitable. Let the young guys take his role and even though it's potential to be ugly, at least we know which players have it and which don't. Quit being cucks and realize the team is better off without Demar.
Wow Spurs would be giving up a chance to be a 35 win team by letting DeRozan walk.
Too bad we don't have a Virginia Squires to raid like 48 years ago.
30 million a year for a 35+ win team, no thanks. But some people scoff that at a hard tank lol.
My gripe is stylistic, because the path to building a contender is tortuous and not easy to figure out. Basically, my eyes are bleeding from watching the Spurs play such a selfish brand of basketball all season long. The fourth quarter of today’s game in contrast: yeah we lost, but there was a joy to the game. I’m not saying Tre Jones, Dieng, and Diop are our future, but I’d rather lose gracefully playing that way (ideally with defense thrown in to keep things close) then continue with the style we saw this year led by our veterans.
That’s the best idea I’ve heard yet for the short term.
His contract is also up in 2023, the next FA window. He shoots about 38/39% from beyond the arc, and his TS% was 62 last year.
Other targets to hold our cap room:
Al Horford, another shooter from beyond the arc. You could play him with Jakob when needed. Also expires in 2023. Both of his PM scores, O and D have been positive every year since his rookie season.
Wiggins, another combo forward. He’s the most expensive of the bunch, and the least good fit. I’d need something good from GS to eat that $65M. At least his shooting improved.
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I'm expecting they'll be worse with or without DeRozan next year.
It could be a rookie wall. But it could also be that in the beginning he hardly played and got wide ass open looks against end of bench scrubs and made them at a good clip. Then he faced harder compe ion, got more minutes and people actually closed out on him instead of leaving him open. When we started him he went like 0-7 on 3s and that’s not fatigue but better compe ion. The book may have been out on him that a hard close out s his shot over.
But 21% in May (combined with April) is more than a slump. That’s Westbrick status. He has lost all confidence in his 3 point shot
He's missed some he should have made, but he has also taken some shots off some janky passes from less-than-graceful-with-the-ball teammates. I think part of his percentage is a symptom of the relative inability of the team to pass a basketball that I mentioned earlier.
The team is functionally re ed on offense (and defense). That's going to impact a rookie spot-up shooter.
it depends on what they do with the players around Demar if he is kept. We actually get some real 3&D players the team would be better for sure.
we all (well some of us on here) know for a fact that the team will be worse without Demar though.
Worse, like beating the crap out of Phoenix a couple of weeks ago? Their announcers even said they wished he were playing, because they know how to defend him.
The offense is slow and predictable when run through DD. That is all.
Against end of the bench scrubs? Have you watched a single game this season? I say this because Vassell was getting regular minutes early on in the season. Or is Spurstalk just a website you go to while you're having your tea?
at least you’re being realistic in your thoughts. Some folks on here actually blame everything on Demar and Pop when the overall roster of the team is very flawed.
this team needs shooting and defenders badly and if all the vets leave we’re gonna be really, really bad and will then need actual shot creators and makers to go along with the other things we are already missing. honestly bottoming out isn’t a bad thing because we do need young players with all around and not singular talent and the best way to get young players like that on good contracts is through the draft.
i just feel a lot of folks don’t truly understand how bad this team is and will be without our veteran players and Pop. some believe that the team getting a top 5 pick will magically make us better, when that isn’t necessarily the case. I will root for the team regardless but I’m sure a lot of these folks will jump ship when we truly are a bottom 4 team throughout the league.
i hope you don’t truly believe what you just posted. Lmao
the Suns announcers said what they did because the Suns coaching staff didn’t have an extensive scouting report on the Spurs who were getting playing time in that game. It wasn’t an indictment on Demar’s game what so ever. Lmao.
I’m not saying Demar is a great player or if we should give him a huge contract at the end of this season. I’m just pointing out the delusional at ude of some of the fan base on this site. Demar for all his flaws is the least of our problems. He has actually been a good player for this team but the roster as a whole isn’t that good and if he (along with the other veteran players) does walk a lot of folks are going to realize it even more.
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