UFOs

[pgardn]

It doesn't even have to be biological. They could be AI or remotely controlled. You make just as many assumptions while ignoring that MULTIPLE SENSOR SYSTEMS CORROBORATED BY MULTIPLE, CREDIBLE EYEWITNESSES OVER MULTIPLE DAYS, AND IN SOME CASES YEARS are locking on to these things. Things that show intelligent control, and seemingly show up quite often around military assets. Possibly predictably? And, particularly, our nuclear assets.

These events often - but not always - point to physical craft/objects in our skies. You need to come to terms with that. Perhaps advanced black budget tech, or some other country that has made an advancement? Natural phenomena obviously needs to be ruled out, but I think we've passed that point in these cases.

Your first capitalized is what makes this so interesting.

And physical objects in the sky... this is what I find hard but sorta hopeful. At the stops and starts described I dont see materials we know holding up at all. We have tried to use rail guns etc.. to launch things and they burn up in our atmosphere at the accelerations described. And moving thru the atmosphere with no disturbance in the atmosphere (ie sound waves?) How? I would like to see something dealing with air pressure waves etc... otherwise mass taking up space and moving thru air? Totally overlooked. And especially with the size described in some cases.

I dont think we have passed natural phenomena just because people see. Seeing is believing is an outdated term in todays world.

The other odd thing is that some people believe this events prove we have visitors... like something would want to visit? why? This is so anthropomorphic. why would they want to do things we would want to do? Because thats all we know?

[pgardn]

The release of all this has been really neat thing though.

I just want more stuff.
Keep it coming I say.
Too bad we will get looney birds feeding into this. Because I honestly believe the people see what they say they see in most cases that have been properly vetted before they get out and popular. And I know some of these people know what they saw and still dont believe they are some sort of alien craft.
I have seen and heard multiple things I cant explain.

I just hope they keep happening so I can figure it out. I have this big buzzing noise that occurs at certain times that sounds like a giant moth flapping its wings or some big flying insect stuck in our wall. And for the life of me I cannot figure it out. Its like a moth would do, it flaps really hard then stops, then tries again and stops. It seems to go very rapidly slow down and quit and its just bugging the out of me that I cant find it. There are many sounds I get in my house that are electrical in nature, but this does not fit any of the other noises. I will eventually get it and then slap my head and call myself a dumb fck. But this is going on a good year. I just dont want to tear my house apart in order to find it.

[Blake]

Sure...there's definitely still things we don't understand and could be creating a lot of these sightings. But if you believe the videos and interviews, there's some sightings that are hard to explain as weather related or any atmospheric phenomena.
Regardless, I still lean on the side that there's so much space out there, that odds are we aren't the only (and/or) most advanced civilization.

The ol' Fermi Paradox

https://www.space.com/25325-fermi-paradox.html

[TimDunkem]

Your first capitalized is what makes this so interesting.

And physical objects in the sky... this is what I find hard but sorta hopeful. At the stops and starts described I dont see materials we know holding up at all. We have tried to use rail guns etc.. to launch things and they burn up in our atmosphere at the accelerations described. And moving thru the atmosphere with no disturbance in the atmosphere (ie sound waves?) How? I would like to see something dealing with air pressure waves etc... otherwise mass taking up space and moving thru air? Totally overlooked. And especially with the size described in some cases.

I dont think we have passed natural phenomena just because people see. Seeing is believing is an outdated term in todays world.

The other odd thing is that some people believe this events prove we have visitors... like something would want to visit? why? This is so anthropomorphic. why would they want to do things we would want to do? Because thats all we know?

If you believe life is rare then it makes sense why something would come from far away to take the matches out of the children's hands.

[pgardn]

If you believe life is rare then it makes sense why something would come from far away to take the matches out of the children's hands.

The bolded I would definitely not mind at all.
But just saying it and thinking this way means it makes sense to us.
I dont see why whatever would even necessarily "think" this way.

[TimDunkem]

The bolded I would definitely not mind at all.
But just saying it and thinking this way means it makes sense to us.
I dont see why whatever would even necessarily "think" this way.

I wouldn't have thought of it if it weren't for the numerous incidents of nukes being activated, deactivated, "scanned", followed, the explosion in sightings after Trinity, etc.

And maybe they don't really care about us, but mostly the planet in particular. Many of these events happen around water after all and - and more stories about this aspect of the phenomenon will become public knowledge soon - UAP are often both UFOs and USOs, coming in and out of large bodies of water, following nuclear subs, being observed doing the same things in water as they do in air.

Maybe we're just monkeys running around with the matches at the gas station?