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    As a person who celebrates Festivus, I must say that I am deeply offended. If schools are going to have Christmas trees, they MUST have the Festivus Pole as well.

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    I can understand it, too. But tough , get over it. I'm sure people of other religions own stock in retail companies who profit from Christmas sales, where's the outrage over that?
    One situation involves an act that is purely voluntary and involves the private sector. The other situation involves a public ins ution where there is statutorily-mandated attendance.

    Not exactly the same.
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    One situation involves an act that is purely voluntary and involves the private sector. The other situation involves a public ins ution where there is statutorily-mandated attendance.

    Not exactly the same.
    I'm sure if you wanted to give all kids a school holiday for Jewish/Muslim holidays, they'd be all for it.

    But the fact remains that it has always been called that by a public ins ution and no one has been hurt by it, it is being changed because someone perceived that it might be insensitive to a small group, maybe, so let's call it something completely unrelated to the reason it originated for.

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    I'm sure if you wanted to give all kids a school holiday for Jewish/Muslim holidays, they'd be all for it.

    But the fact remains that it has always been called that by a public ins ution and no one has been hurt by it, it is being changed because someone perceived that it might be insensitive to a small group, maybe, so let's call it something completely unrelated to the reason it originated for.
    I am sure that if the school cafeteria served nothing but ice cream and cookies the kids would be all for it, but that doesn't make it a good policy.

    Also, will anyone be hurt by calling the break "winter break." If the name is as irrelevant as you say it is, why does it matter if we change it?
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    Why don't we call it "The Waning Autumnal/Winter Solstice/Winter Starting/New Year Holiday Blowout Spectacular" Break? That would be "more descriptive".

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    Why don't we call it "The Waning Autumnal/Winter Solstice/Winter Starting/New Year Holiday Blowout Spectacular" Break? That would be "more descriptive".
    Because that would be too long.
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    While we're at it, Easter break is now "Spring renewal festival break" and Good Friday is now "Friday of Non-denominational and Non-specific Religious Importance"

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    While we're at it, Easter break is now "Spring renewal festival break" and Good Friday is now "Friday of Non-denominational and Non-specific Religious Importance"
    See my previous post.
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    If we celebrated Christmas around the time of year Jesus was actually born, rather than our traditional Euro-centric synchretistic co-mingling with the pagan festival of the winter solstice, it would be in September close to Sukkot.

    And then our Jewish friends would have a holiday that actually matters in their religion to compete with Christmas, rather than this overblown celebration of a minor event the account of which in the Hebrew canon didn't even survive the purge of the Septuagint.

    What would suck though is that kids would get school supplies as presents.

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    Isn't it kind of sad that ancient polytheistic paganism has such a gravitational pull on how two of the three major monotheistic faiths worship the One True God?

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    I'm still partial to the "What the am I going to do with my kids for 2 weeks because in the real world most people can't take more than a week's vacation at a time and I ing hate paying extra daycare when I could be spending that money on eggnog & bourbon" break.


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    Also, will anyone be hurt by calling the break "winter break." If the name is as irrelevant as you say it is, why does it matter if we change it?
    Was anyone hurt by calling it Christmas Break? Why does it matter if we change it?


    I am not very religious personally and I honestly could care less what the time off is called....I agree that the name is irrelevant...that is my point.

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    Makes no difference to me. All the energy it takes to about political correctness could be better well spent on issues that matter. Like what the kids are learning when they are NOT on one of their 65465025655 days off during the school year.

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    Great point.

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    Was anyone hurt by calling it Christmas Break? Why does it matter if we change it?
    Evidently someone was hurt by it or else we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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    Define "hurt" though.

    If someone was actually seriously mentally affected by that phrase....they have worse problems.

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    Define "hurt" though.

    If someone was actually seriously mentally affected by that phrase....they have worse problems.
    I think the definition of "hurt" is somewhere in the amendments to our state cons ution, but I'm not sure.
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    I think you are right!

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    Yep that's right!! Boo xmas!!

    AND YEA TO CHRISTMAS !!

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    If we celebrated Christmas around the time of year Jesus was actually born, rather than our traditional Euro-centric synchretistic co-mingling with the pagan festival of the winter solstice, it would be in September close to Sukkot.

    And then our Jewish friends would have a holiday that actually matters in their religion to compete with Christmas, rather than this overblown celebration of a minor event the account of which in the Hebrew canon didn't even survive the purge of the Septuagint.

    What would suck though is that kids would get school supplies as presents.

    AAhh, you took the words right out of my mouth!

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    Isn't it kind of sad that ancient polytheistic paganism has such a gravitational pull on how two of the three major monotheistic faiths worship the One True God?
    Someone has been reading too many Dan Brown novels.

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    It's sad that the world is trying to phase out "Christ", and "God", from everything we know. Christmas is a time that we celebrate the birth of Christ. It may not be on the exact day,(no one knows) but it's an important time for Christians. It's kind of disturbing that one could say satan, the devil, or demon, and everybody seems cool with that, but don't you dare mention the name of Christ, or Jesus, or proclaim your believe in God, now everyone has a problem with that.

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    Someone has been reading too many Dan Brown novels.
    SOMEONE HAS BEEN GIVING UP ON THE SPURS RAHSO NESTO

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    Someone has been reading too many Dan Brown novels.
    Brown, schmown. Can you explain to me what exactly decorated evergreen trees, holly, and mistletoe have to do with the birth of God Incarnate in a desert cave in the Near East?

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    Brown, schmown. Can you explain to me what exactly decorated evergreen trees, holly, and mistletoe have to do with the birth of God Incarnate in a desert cave in the Near East?
    Blame the krauts.

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