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    It just smelled like Jim's restaurants' smoking section.

    I went to eat at Chipotle's during lunch today the one on Broadway and passed by Earl Abel's and they literally have a sign outside that says "This restaurant has not been sold"
    yeah, i saw that on the news at noon... they spoke with the owner and he said it means that the restaurant is still open seeing as how the realestate deal has not closed yet.
    also said he's not sure if they will re-open at another location or not.

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    I don't think It would be that same for those custmers that are used to going to that same location If the restaurant opens somewhere else.

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    I don't think It would be that same for those custmers that are used to going to that same location If the restaurant opens somewhere else.
    True. They get lost easily enough as is.

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    I've eaten there. it was yummy. (the steak & desert) ...also thier take out fried chicken was quite delicious. :p
    Yes. I've had many delicious meals at Earl Abel's. We used to go there from work when I worked at Ft. Sam. And it was one of my Dad's favorite places for a long time, so the family went, too.

    It is a strange place for condos. Are they trying to rejuvenate that area? I haven't been to that area in years, I don't even remember the last time. But, when I was working at Ft. Sam, that was not that nice a neighborhood.

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    I love the 80's! Old School Chic's Avatar
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    True. They get lost easily enough as is.
    Jim's Is a few buildings down. Hopefully, they won't get too lost.

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    Since 1979 Das Texan's Avatar
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    My grandmother worked there many many years ago back in teh 60s and 70s and all, probably into the 80s also.

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    Earl Abel's to go

    Web Posted: 11/15/2005 12:04 AM CST

    Sanford Nowlin
    Express-News Business Writer


    Earl Abel's, the 72-year-old San Antonio restaurant known equally for retro decor and retro cuisine, likely will close its doors early next year to make way for a decidedly modern high-rise condo development.

    Development group Koontz McCombs quietly put the Alamo City ins ution, located just north of downtown, under contract late this summer and could raze it as early as January to make way for a proposed 25-story, 80-unit condo tower, owner Jerry Abel said.

    The developer wants to start construction on the 2.4-acre property, at the busy intersection of Broadway and Hildebrand Avenue, early next year and finish by 2008.

    "Everything just came together perfectly," Abel said of his decision to end his restaurant's successful run.

    "This building is old. I'm old. So, with that in mind, the proposal from Koontz McCombs made so much sense."

    The developer still needs to gain zoning changes before it can build, and the height of the building may provoke opposition from neighbors.

    The sixty-something Abel wouldn't discuss financial terms of the deal but said he's "tired" of operating the restaurant his father started in 1933. Abel grew up working in the family business and has served as its president for 20 years.

    Theater organist Earl Abel opened his first namesake eatery on North Main Avenue after the Great Depression put him out of work. He later opened a handful of other locations, including the Broadway restaurant — the chain's sole survivor.

    Earl Abel's fried chicken, mashed potatoes and homemade pies have sustained generations of customers from thrifty downtown workers to Alamo Heights bluebloods.

    Seemingly trapped in a time warp, the wood-paneled and red-wallpapered dining room has been the site of countless business lunches and family breakfasts. It gained further notoriety in 1986 as the place where U.S. Rep. Henry B. Gonzalez slugged a fellow diner for calling him a communist.

    Koontz McCombs principal Bart Koontz said he talked with Abel for at least a year about the property before settling on a deal.

    He wouldn't say how much his group plans to spend developing the high-end condos, which would overlook nearby Brackenridge Park and downtown San Antonio.

    Koontz said he plans to landscape the area around the tower — the property currently has no trees — and install pedestrian-friendly walkways. Houston-based Ziegler Cooper Architects is designing the building, which Koontz said would fit in with the area's architecture.

    "We just wouldn't feel right about putting some sort of 21st century glass monolith in there," Koontz said.

    Koontz wouldn't say how much his group, backed by auto magnate B.J. "Red" McCombs, plans to spend on the project. Nor would he discuss prices for the units — other than saying they will be "moderate-expensive to expensive."

    Councilman Kevin Wolff, whose district includes Earl Abel's, said he has known of plans for the condos for several weeks.

    "It's kind of a neat layout," Wolff said. "The bad part is — are we going to lose an icon? Yeah."

    Wolff, who last week attended a Mahncke Park Neighborhood Association meeting, said leaders there seemed to accept the redevelopment plans. Koontz McCombs officials have been talking to neighbors about the tower's design.

    Before it can begin construction, the developer must ask the city to rezone the property so it can accommodate multifamily dwellings. Wolff said doesn't foresee significant resistance to the rezoning plan.

    Joyce Felter, vice president of the Mahncke Park association, said the group doesn't know enough about the project to take an official stand.

    However, she added, "if it's a high rise, there are individual members who are opposed to having a high rise in the neighborhood."

    Another residential high-rise building is already located nearby at Hildebrand and North New Braunfels Avenue.

    Real estate officials say Broadway south of Hildebrand — long a string of vacant car dealerships and storefronts — is poised to take off as the city's economy grows and its downtown business climate improves.

    The planned condos likely would appeal to professionals looking to cut their downtown commute time, said Stephen Poteet of Broadway Developers, which is building an office complex a few blocks south of Earl Abel's. They also could be attractive to empty nesters looking to downsize their living space.

    "I think it would be an especially good site because it's well-positioned between the downtown business sector and the northeast suburbs," Poteet said.

    Longtime Earl Abel's diners say they understand that times are changing, but they lament the loss of yet another San Antonio landmark.

    "Where am I going to eat?" asked Hazel Wheeler, 83. "I've been coming here so long, I don't recall just how long it's been my favorite restaurant."

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met...s.ca78811.html

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    Earl Abel's to go


    Real estate officials say Broadway south of Hildebrand — long a string of vacant car dealerships and storefronts — is poised to take off as the city's economy grows and its downtown business climate improves.
    it would be helpful if they finish that one set of homes before they start knocking out more. Its going to take a lot more than high rise dwellings to really get broadway back into gear. obviously its going to take some mixed use buildings, along with a city wide (i.e. leadership specfically city hall) focus on broadway and its re-development in various beautification projects for residents. You will also ultimately need HEB to buy into it as well at a minimum.

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    it would be helpful if they finish that one set of homes before they start knocking out more. Its going to take a lot more than high rise dwellings to really get broadway back into gear. obviously its going to take some mixed use buildings, along with a city wide (i.e. leadership specfically city hall) focus on broadway and its re-development in various beautification projects for residents. You will also ultimately need HEB to buy into it as well at a minimum.
    It's a section of Broadway, not the entire corridor.

    From NoDo to about Hildebrand is where the redevelopment is going to be.

    This plus the four story office complex and the announcment that the old Buttercrust building has been bought and is going to be redeveloped, the new townhomes, and that mix use complex that is currently 60% finished (but the owner is in court because the builders did a crappy job) and not to mention the massive River North project is just the beginning of the lower Broadway redevelopment.

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    Earl Abel's sucks.

    But , it's been there so long, it's sad to think of it going away.

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    I came out and I felt so embarrased to see that all my family was by the door waving at me to get out.


    See, with stories like that, they can't let it close!

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    I've eaten there. it was yummy.
    You must've been pregnant.

    Oh, wait, what am I saying, of course you were.

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    goodbye

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    i said goodbye to earl abel's the 1st and last time i ate there....

    i can always eat at a local nursing home if i'm so inclined...

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