DUI? Lose Your Rights

[Useruser666]

Mandatory breathilizers in every car.

That's a point, but the plates are only targeted to people who have already broken the law. It's not that much different than probation, house arrest, or court orderd counseling. I believe they already have stickers somewhere in the US that people convicted of DUI have to have on their vehicles.

[Spurminator]

But the plates won't deter anyone. What's the punishment? Angry glares from people driving past you?

I don't really see the breathilizer as a punishment for non-drunk drivers... Inconvenience? Slightly, maybe. But worth it in the overall scheme of things. Sometimes you have to make preventative measures for the gretaer good, like metal detectors at the airport. I didn't do anything wrong, but I still have to remove my shoes, belt and keys and stand in line just like everyone else.


Oh, and if your buddy breathes into it for you and you're caught, you both go to prison for two years.

[SWC Bonfire]

Because all the electronic stuff on cars nowadays are so reliable, and certainly you won't have any problems with the brethalyzer being bypassed or the ignition circuit not activating correctly.

Tow truck companies would love it, I guess.

[SpursWoman]

Spoil sport.

[Mr. Peabody]

Mandatory breathilizers in every car.

As soon as that happens, methods of bypassing the breathalyzer system will be seen all over the internet. The only people that will be inconvenienced are those who aren't driving drunk to begin with.
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[SWC Bonfire]

As soon as that happens, methods of bypassing the breathalyzer system will be seen all over the internet. The only people that will be inconvenienced are those who aren't driving drunk to begin with.

Exactly. Like taking guns away from law-abiding people vs. trying to prevent people from doing stupid things with guns.

[Spurminator]

Because all the electronic stuff on cars nowadays are so reliable, and certainly you won't have any problems with the brethalyzer being bypassed or the ignition circuit not activating correctly.

So get it fixed just like any other car problem.

The only people that will be inconvenienced are those who aren't driving drunk to begin with.

I disagree. Some people would figure out a way to bypass the system just like anything else, but most people will just learn to deal with it. Cops check your license and registration every time they pull you over, now they would also check to make sure your breathalyzer is activated. If it's not, you get fined. If it's not, and you're drunk, prison.

[Extra Stout]

We also need an electronic interlock with the ignition that confirms your cell phone is off.

We also need one that reads your brain waves and determines if you've had enough sleep.

We also need one that monitors your bladder and forces you to pee before you leave.

We also need one in pickups called the "Redneckalyzer" that keeps hyperaggressive rednecks from tailgating everybody so they can go 120 in their jacked-up dualie F-350s.

[MannyIsGod]

The funny thing is, I know many of you have commited DUI but were not caught and are being self rigtheous as in this thread.

[Useruser666]

I NEVER have commited DUI Manny and I'm not being self righteous. But that doesn't mean the plates are a bad idea. Dan went off the deep end with his intial comments as usual. I don't see how the plate idea would infringe on anyone's rights.

[SpursWoman]

The funny thing is, I know many of you have commited DUI but were not caught and are being self rigtheous as in this thread.

If I sounded "self-righteous as " it wasn't intentional....I know how ing lucky I've been in my very misguided youth to be able live to tell about it....and that I've never injured anyone else. But that doesn't make it right....just because I did it and got away with it.

My oldest child is about 5 years off from getting behind the wheel of a car. My outlook has changed considerably.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Mandatory breathilizers in every car.

what if you're being chased by Jason or Freddy Krueger and you can't start your car because you drank a beer? Then what? You die is what

[MannyIsGod]

Well, Chris, they eliminate due process. They subject you to searches without probable cause. Gee, I wonder.

, bring back the Scarlet A! Maybe we can just brand criminals as well.

[Mr. Peabody]

what if you're being chased by Jason or Freddy Krueger and you can't start your car because you drank a beer? Then what? You die is what

You die, but only in your sleep and if you're sleeping you shouldn't be driving because it's as bad as driving drunk.
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[gtownspur]

^^WHile i agree with you 100 percent. DUI is not to be taken lightly. And you should respect people who want to make the roads safer. It's not like they're advocating unmanned drones to patrol low income neighborhoods.

[SpursWoman]

Well, Chris, they eliminate due process. They subject you to searches without probable cause. Gee, I wonder.

, bring back the Scarlet A! Maybe we can just brand criminals as well.

So you think it's bad for people to know if sex offenders live in their neighborhood because it brands them with a big, fat "M"!?

[Mr. Peabody]

This reminds me of those instances where judges make an offender put out a sign in their front yard identifying themselves as an offender. Those cases are usually struck down by the appellate courts.



Warning Sign Does Not Cons ute Proper Probation Term

As a term of a probation order imposed in respect of a sexual offence, a Tennessee trial judge ordered the accused to place a 4-by-8 foot sign in his front yard stating "Warning, all children. Wayne Burden is an admitted and convicted child molester. Parents beware". The criminal law statute pursuant to which the probation was ordered listed a number of possible terms, and included a residual provision permitting any other conditions reasonably related to the purpose of the offender's sentence and not unduly restrictive of the offender's liberty. On appeal, the court concluded that the condition imposed was not authorized by the statute either expressly or implicitly. It did not fit with the kinds of terms enumerated in the statute, which relate to conventional societal duties such as productive employment. The court termed the condition "novel" and "somewhat bizarre", and concluded that it had no relationship to the primary goal of probation, the offender's rehabilitation. State (Tennessee) v. Burden, 59 Cr.L. 1275, Tenn. Sup. Ct., May 28, 1996.
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[SpursWoman]

How is that any different from offenders being put on "the list" that everyone has access to? Why is that information still available to the public?

[Mr. Peabody]

How is that any different from offenders being put on "the list" that everyone has access to? Why is that information still available to the public?

There is a difference between making information available to the public and forcing someone to place a sign in their yard detailing their problems.
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[Spurminator]

So everybody's concerned enough about Drunk Driving to suggest taking away cars and licenses after the fact, or giving the convicted some stupid pink license plate that they can laugh about with their buddies at the bar... but nobody wants to take two seconds to breathe into a tube before starting their car?

Maybe drunk driving isn't that much of a problem after all.

[Oh, Gee!!]

So everybody's concerned enough about Drunk Driving to suggest taking away cars and licenses after the fact, or giving the convicted some stupid pink license plate that they can laugh about with their buddies at the bar... but nobody wants to take two seconds to breathe into a tube before starting their car?

Maybe drunk driving isn't that much of a problem after all.

all we need is another reason for car companies to charge us even more when they'd be required to install breathalyzers in new vehicles.
Salesman: Ok, that's $500 extra for undercoating, $2000 for extended warranty, $600 for scoth-guarding, $3000 for breathalyzer.....

[ChumpDumper]

And it would be relatively easy to cir vent. I simply think seizing the car might be a decent deterrent and punishment.

[Spurminator]

I think a combination of both would be ideal. Punishment only happens after it's too late. And I don't think it would be that great a deterrent except for people who are already caught.

People simply don't believe they will get caught.

[Spurminator]

all we need is another reason for car companies to charge us even more when they'd be required to install breathalyzers in new vehicles.

Well I don't like to have to pay for vehicle registration and an emissions test every year (or auto insurance, actually), but that's the law.

[MannyIsGod]

How is that any different from offenders being put on "the list" that everyone has access to? Why is that information still available to the public?

The list is public. You're making already public information yet public again. Convictions aren't private, so the sex offenders list is simply a publication of already public information.

This is putting a license plate on a car and subjecting someone to a loss of due process for the conviction of one crime. That is bull . Not to mention it doesn't stop them from driving another car and it subjects people to the loss of due process if they have to drive that vehicle and weren't convicted of .

Spurminator is right on with the solution being involved with a breathalyzer that is required to start the vehicle.