Kerr has left the door open a little bit. He'd probably come back if a team wanted him.
Maybe I'm wrong about Peeler. I'm pretty sure LA has an option on Horry though (they were considering trading him to a team looking to free up space under the cap this offseason, and that $5 million may not look so good if they have an eraly-round flame-out).
You may be right about Horry. I think I remember reading that somewhere else as well.
Peeler is a big question mark though. I has seen it various places and no consensus on 03 or 04 for the ending year.
Here's what I do:
Rasho at 5 million
Scola
Chris Kaman
Overpriced decent Big (with contract that expires after 2004) from CKaman trade
Devin Brown
Summer league PG
The Lakers definitely have an option on Horry for 2004. That's why he was mentioned as trade bait near the deadline -- i.e. for teams looking to clear 2003 cap space.
Hi Genghis!
Good to see you.
Who would you spend the money on?
BE RC!
Hey, Kori.
Here's my list:
1. Jason Kidd - 12 mil (max)
2.a. Tyrone Hill - 2-3 mil
2.b. Lee Nailon - 1 mil (if Hill comes for 2)
3. Kevin Willis - min
4. Brian Skinner or other young big - min
5. Mark Jackson, Travis Best, Erick Strickland, Steve Kerr, or Shammond Williams - min
6. Voshon Lenard, Kendall Gill, Raja Bell, Calbert Cheaney, or Terrence Morris - min
If Kidd doesn't come, then
1. Jermaine O'Neal - 12 mil (max)
2. Speedy Claxton - 2 mil
3. Lee Nailon - 1 mil
4. Kevin Willis - min
5 & 6. see above
If O'Neal doesn't come, then
1. Brad Miller - 7 mil
2. Lamar Odom - 6 mil
3. Speedy Claxton - 2 mil
4. Kevin Willis - min
5 & 6. see above
Solid choices Genghis. So you would opt for Kidd before O'Neal?
I am with you on Tyrone Hill being a possibility. Pop loves that guy.
I think the cap will go up a little, and that we have some flex in salaries, so I would go after:
Brand and Payton. I know that goes over by 2.5 but I think it could happen.
Then my line up would be
Parker
Payton 7M
Sjax
Brand 10.5M
Duncan
Bench
Ginobili
Rose
Willis min.
Raja Bell min.
Scott Williams min.
draft pick min.
Kerr min.
BUT if I have to play by the rules as written, then I would go after:
Parker
Manu
Odom 7M
PJ Brown 5M
Duncan
Bench
Speedy 2M
Jack
Bowen
Rose
Willis min
Scola 2M
Raja Bell min
I won't bother with the minute details.
First choice: Jermaine O'Neal.
Second Choice: Gary Payton and Brad Miller.
I also want Kevin Willis and Speedy back.
Regarding Jason Kidd, I won't if we sign him, but Parker has improved SO much, right before our eyes. I recall during Duncan's first two years it took us Spurs fans a while before we agreed Duncan was the man in SA, over DRob. Similarly, Tony Parker's stature is mushrooming. A few years from now, when that silly thread pops up, asking who was the greatest steal (or is it gift?) of all time in the draft, Tony Parker might be everyone's obvious response.
Now, having said that, I believe that the game long ago evolved to the point where the lines between the 5 positions on the floor are blurred, and I can buy into a Parker/Kidd backcourt, but mismatches will continue to be a fact of life. To that end, I think Payton (for three years) matched with Parker presents a stronger backcourt than does Kidd/Parker.
Adios
pfc, that's the stupidest idea I've ever seen regarding free agency. I'm both shocked and awed by how bad of an idea that is.
Brand (10.5M)
Claxton (2M)
Scola (2M)
Willis min
Mark Jackson min
Gill min
Batiste min
Horry and Peeler added to the list.
Kidd
Tyrone Hill
or
Payton
Miller or KClark or (gag) Olowokandi
or
JO'Neal
No matter what the Spurs will leave this summer with, they will have added some good quality talent. Much more than a NBA contender (hopefully champ) should be able to add. The main problem I have with most Spurs fans is that they are too concerned about filling 'needs' by position. The Spurs cannot pass up on the opportunity to add a great player as a teammate for Duncan. That is why I give Gary Payton, albeit a 35 year old GP, much more weight than some of the younger players. What this team needs most is the kind of player whom you would want Duncan to go into a game 7 with, not just a player who will help you put together a good regular season record. Look at Dallas...they have the best record in the league and they absolutely are horrid versus any of the other contending teams. They manage to beat up on the sorry teams with their collection of talent though.
That's why adding a great player this summer is of paramount concern for me and having a perfect lineup is secondary.
Very good point. Of all the available players, Payton might be the player you'd most want on your team in a game 7. That makes him a very intruiging option.That is why I give Gary Payton, albeit a 35 year old GP, much more weight than some of the younger players. What this team needs most is the kind of player whom you would want Duncan to go into a game 7 with
Yeah... I've oscillated between the two a little, but I just think that Kidd is a better player with that extra something (more talent/leadership/whatever) that O'Neal doesn't have.So you would opt for Kidd before O'Neal?
I don't think either of them fits "perfectly" on this team -- O'Neal will cramp some of Duncan's offense and isn't really a center, while Kidd will obviously affect Parker and neither is really a SG.
I guess I feel that Kidd will be more willing or able to adapt his game to fit the team than O'Neal (although I believe that either of them could work very well here). I see Kidd more as a great complementary star, while O'Neal strikes me as a better primary star.
Parker's a great PG, but he has a superb scoring instinct, too, which makes me think that he and Kidd would mesh well.
I could go either way, though, and if Pop/RC can bring one of them to this team, I'll be thrilled.
That is a good argument for Jason Kidd, and a main reason why I think Kidd would work.I see Kidd more as a great complementary star, while O'Neal strikes me as a better primary star.
Parker's a great PG, but he has a superb scoring instinct, too, which makes me think that he and Kidd would mesh well.
I could go either way, though, and if Pop/RC can bring one of them to this team, I'll be thrilled.
He'd make Duncan better and could pair with Parker to form a great backcourt. There is a chance that a Kidd/Parker backcourt could implode, but it is a risk worth taking.
O'Neal is also an awesome option. I think he'd be great next to Duncan, especially defensively.
I'm shocked and awed at what an idiot you are. You also one of those wise guys that was sure the lakers were going to win this year and laughed off the people who said the spurs would do it... God I think you are also one of the jackasses who was clamoring for the SAR trade for Rose and SSMith. Not only was that stabbing a loyal player in the back but Malik is playing great and a HUGE part of our success..pfc, that's the stupidest idea I've ever seen regarding free agency. I'm both shocked and awed by how bad of an idea that is.
You are such a bozo. When you have a championship team of young guys hitting their prime you don't go out and blow 12 million on one guy just because you can...
:brotha
I'm with G-Rex. Nice call.
Anyways pfc. You don't stand pat just because you've got a team that can win it all. You fine-tune and bring in additional talent because to do so, increases your odds of repeating. This team that we see now will not be the same come July 1. Robinson, Smith, Ferry, possibly Kerr, GONE. Bateer-No man's land, Speedy-Could be here but if Kidd comes, not a chance, and KWill, despite his advanced age, he is still a very good backup. So how can one just stand pat?
I'm hoping that Kidd makes it here and the already rich PJ Brown will find San Antonio to be his greatest chance at winning a le and accept a MLE type contract.
Couple that with a solid core of Tim, Tony, Manu, Malik, & SJax plus some surprises like Scola and other solid but willing to play for the cheap, players. Dynasty...its coming.
A prominent guy once told me..."believe" I'm glad I've never stopped.
I don't see the money to get Kidd AND get someone (Brown) for around $5M. The cap room just isn't there. If you get Kidd, you basically have $2M to fill out the rest of your roster.I'm hoping that Kidd makes it here and the already rich PJ Brown will find San Antonio to be his greatest chance at winning a le and accept a MLE type contract.
Plus you probably won't have the money to bring over Scola either.
P.S.
Believe.
You need to make an addition this offseason. Not a gaurd. Possibly a swingman.
o, people !
Newbie in this forum, but should be easy to recognize if you're also a member/ex member of the old/new SR forum
:wink
As my first post, i'd like to drop my 2 centz here about this summer free agency
1st option
Jermaine O'Neal at Max
The rest of caproom to Speedy
Sign Willis, Mark Blount, some young studs ( 2nd # draftees maybe ) at SF and PG spots
2nd option
Gary Payton
a. Brad Miller + keeping up the 1st # draft
b. Rasho + Pike
c. PJ Brown + Pike
After that, getting Kidd is not a bad consolation prize this summer IMHO :vomit
Welcome gunawanspurs!
Solid first post!
Stick around!
I am much more handsome than RC Buford.
I just have to go with J O'Neal if available...
Ther argument that he might not "work" well with Tim has some merit, but think about the rotations and a core lineup of:
4/5
Duncan
O'Neal
Rose
Scola
1/2/3
Parker
Claxton
Ginobilli
S Jackson
Bowen
Wow!
theres your 9 man playoff rotation
for the next 5 years if Scola works out...
All young to "prime" players...
The most dominant frontcourt in the NBA
The quickest backcourt in the NBA
excellent perimeter defenders in Bowen, Ginobilli, Parker...and SJax and Speedy aren't exactly chopped liver...
the new "Twin Towers" in the paint defensively...
I gotta go with O'Neal if available...
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