5.6 and 7.0 (not to mention 42% FG) in the Eastern Confernce ain't gonna do it son.
Seeing as how the Spurs 'need' to replace 8.5 points and 7.9 rebounds I think some have their expectations set just a little bit too high.
5.6 and 7.0 (not to mention 42% FG) in the Eastern Confernce ain't gonna do it son.
Oh man, now you have gone way toooo far Marcus...those are fighting words.You are guilty of blasphemy and sacrilege in the highest order and must be condemned to death. If you think replacing DRob is something so easy to do, you are the stupidest man in the forum and you have a lot of company IMO. DRob did so much more for this team than offer up his 10 pts and 8 rebs, he was our defensive leader and inspirational leader, he was the epitome of Spurs bball. You can not measure his importance to this team by his stat line. If you think Kidd can fill the void left by DRob, you are sadly mistaken. Jason Kidd can not carry David's jock, much less replace him on this team. I never thought I would see a fan forget the most important player in this franchises history so readily....
Whatever Jim.
Yeah scotty those numbers are just too far off. Nevermind that you just added a Jason Kidd to the team.
Jim,
I think its safe to say the majority of the people here want a big rather than Kidd. But I'd rather have Kidd than Kandi. It's stupid to think that the spurs can't win with one dominant big man, most of the teams out west do that. If we add Kidd, trust me, we play a diffrent game, but we don't nessecarily take a step backwords.
Yes, J Oneal or Brand if you can get either, but FACE REALITY IF YOU CAN'T. Kidd is the best option therefore. You play with the cards you are delt.
We are getting O'Neal, I just know it. Trust me on this.
You are right. I totally forgot about the low post presence Jason Kidd brings. May he'll stop Shaq from putting 40 on us every time we play the Lakers.Yeah scotty those numbers are just too far off. Nevermind that you just added a Jason Kidd to the team.
Jack will draw some serious looks (and some serioius "Jack" offers) this off-season. I'd hate to see Jack leave, but he was nails in the clutch and he led the Spurs in steals, so he WILL bring attention from other clubs looking for athleticism, quickness, and shooting.
The Spurs will be put in a compromising position if they money-up on the big FA, a second-tier FA, and then see what's left for Jack. He's got a target on the front AND on the back of his FA jersey.
I thought that even after the Spurs use up their cap space, they can still offer up to the MLE to SJax.The Spurs will be put in a compromising position if they money-up on the big FA, a second-tier FA, and then see what's left for Jack. He's got a target on the front AND on the back of his FA jersey.
Right, we cannot expect Tim Duncan to actually play D. And of course should the Spurs follow your line of reasoning to its absurd end they would pass on Jason Kidd for Michael Olowokandi.You are right. I totally forgot about the low post presence Jason Kidd brings. May he'll stop Shaq from putting 40 on us every time we play the Lakers.
If Kidd comes, trade Parker's @ss.
Next.
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SJack is an Early Bird free agent. He will count roughly $900K against the cap until he is re-signed, renounced, or signs with another team. The Spurs can sign other free agents before signing him. They are allowed to sign him to a new contract starting at up to the NBA average salary, which is basically the MLE.
For obvious reasons, Tim Duncan doesn't play Shaq for the majority of the game.
I've never suggested Olowokandi over Kidd. Quit making up things to justify your man-lust for Tyrone Hill. Why don't we call JR Reid up- maybe he can be our starting 5. But hey, at least we'll have Kidd.
Oh, so now I'm making things up? Right.
Speaking of "manlust" you seem to have a fairly big dose of it for Monsieur Parker.
You cannot have an all-star at every position. Like it or not that's the way it is.
I agree...
all the talk of playing Kidd and Parker in the same backcourt is just a smokescreen...If they sign Kidd they need to trade Parker while his value is high...there are lots of teams that need a proven point guard and have young talent to bargain with...
Kandi + Maggette > Kidd*
*For the Spur's needs. We do not need a 6'4" pointguard. We need athleticism and height, we need defense in the post, we need outside shooters.
Just think about the games we lost in the playoffs, we sucked in shooting, FTs and TOs. Our defense was never bad, it was a constant. You have a 7 footer in the paint who can block and alter shots and rebound in Kandi, that is what Dave brought to the table. O'Neal would be so much better if we snare him, but I would rather have Maggette and Kandi together than Kidd by himself if O'Neal stays put. You put Maggette with Manu, and Jackson and Parker, you will have a team that can break down any defense.
I don't like the Maggette part. Maggette doesn't give anything that Manu & Jack don't give us for cheaper.
I'd take Olowokandi and use the remaining money to extend some contracts of current players.
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You've got it nailed, Ghost.I don't like the Maggette part. Maggette doesn't give anything that Manu & Jack don't give us for cheaper.
6 months ago Maggette would have sounded nice- but his 4 extra ppg are mitigated by Jackson's clutch abilities, loyalty to the team, willingness to improve/adapt, playoff experience, and significantly lower cost.
Then you consider Manu in addition and Maggette seems more and more like fool's gold.
Scott, IMO you can not too many athletic swingmen that can take defenders off the dribble or stop and pop from 15-23 ft. Maggette has the pedigree and all the skills to really help this team go to the next level. Next level you ask? I am talking dynasty.
No denying Maggette's talent. But you can indeed have too many athletic swingmen. See Portland.
Maggette is only a marginal improvement over Jackson, and doesn't have the big game experience and will likely cost twice as much.
It's all about value Jim.
Right on.
On a Spurs team where we're already nitpicking about Jackson-Manu-Bowen minutes, adding Maggette to the mix could do more damage than ggod.
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Maggette won a championship at Duke that is experience enough. Besides the Spurs proved that experience is over-rated this year anyway, with almost nobody having any Finals experience besides Tim, Dave, Steve and Rose and with all four winning the championship in their first try at the Finals at that.
I know it looks like they do not need that position filled, but with injuries a possibility(see Manu last year) it would be nice to not miss a beat if one of those 3 go down next year.
The only way Maggette makes sense is if you plan on moving Bowe, Jackson or Manu.
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Jim, you know better than to use Duke as a positive endorsement for a player!![]()
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