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  1. #26
    Marcus Bryant
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    Again, in 1989-96 you had David Robinson expected to carry a team without a star teammate. The closest perhaps was Sean Elliott but he fit the profile of an excellent 3rd star (ala Worthy) not a 2nd. Perhaps the closest was Terry mings in 1989-90.

    Tim Duncan does not deserve the same fate for the rest of his career.

  2. #27
    baseline bum
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    I'll take no pleasure in being right. Again.
    Like when you said we should trade Malik and Tony for GP? How about the Spurs not having a credible black assistant or how Pop would never sign a "balla".

  3. #28
    Ghost Writer
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    David Robinson never had a le-worty supporting cast, and it could be argued that Robisno was never the palyoff performer of Duncan's stature.

    Not a valid comparison.

    Duncan just led this team to a le. All he's losing is Robinson.

    Olowokandi = Robinson

    ¿Comprendé?


  4. #29
    Marcus Bryant
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    David Robinson never had a le-worty supporting cast,
    Ok you seem to be understanding what I am saying.


    and it could be argued that Robisno was never the palyoff performer of Duncan's stature.
    Yet Duncan has had DRob at his side during those two le runs.


    Not a valid comparison.
    So it's not valid to compare David Robinson, one of the 50th greatest players in NBA history, a MVP, a perennial member of all-NBA teams, all-NBA defense with Tim Duncan? Get real. Both are and have been franchise players. Just as much as you want to claim that DRob has been fortunate to have TD as a teammate the reverse is quite true.


    Duncan just led this team to a le. All he's losing is Robinson.
    Has he ever led a team to a le without DRob?


    Olowokandi = Robinson
    Go wash out your mouth with soap.

  5. #30
    Marcus Bryant
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    ing A, Casper wants the Spurs to be scared money this summer and waste their time and money on absolute like Michael Olowokandi.

    Grow some ing nuts and brains for once.

  6. #31
    Marcus Bryant
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    And don't give me an excuse like he's their only option, he fills a 'need', etc...no excuses this summer. They cannot fail.

  7. #32
    Ghost Writer
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    RObinson's best days were behind him starting circa 2000. This past season, his production was more in line with Olowokandi. If you think Duncan's two le runs were in bant on Robinson's presence, then you should be pushing for Olowokandi or another big man instead of a guard like Kidd or Payton.

    Simply put:

    Duncan's 2003 champion Spurs - Robinson + Olowokandi = Duncan's 2004 champion Spurs

    When it comes down to it, we'll have to "settle" for Olowokandi, I bet. And that probably won't be as bad as you people think.


  8. #33
    T Park Num 9
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    Oneal and Brand and Kidd or bust.


    if you get none of the top three.

    Just sign minimums and wait for next year.


    If Oneal resigns and Brand gets matched,

    WHAT DO YOU DO?????????

    Go after PJ Brown? eh
    Brad Miller? Yikes.....

  9. #34
    DeSPURado
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    oooh ooh Casper and SF going head to head. Good ol days are back again. And it only took two days after we won the championship.


    RE Kandi. Look at his efficiency ratings Casper, and the number of touches he requires, compare that to David of this year and you will see there is no comparison even now when david is a mere shadow of what he once was.

  10. #35
    Marcus Bryant
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    Bull . You think the Lakers, Kings, and Mavs are going to roll over and play dead during this summer? Um, no. At a a minimum LA will be adding a real PF not the crap they had this season this summer. _allas will be adding some interior D you can count on that. And it's not just about 2003-04 it is about the rest of Duncan's prime playing years. You would have them piss away this opportunity on crap as if they get these kind of opportunities all the time. Show some sense. Show some nuts. Don't settle. Be bold. This is about giving Duncan the tools to dominate an era not just some half-assed marginal move using an undistinguished piece of like Olowokandi.

  11. #36
    Marcus Bryant
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    The Spurs are a marked team you can be rest assured that LA wants blood next season. If the Spurs "settle" they are DOA.

  12. #37
    Jimcs50
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    12 pts and 9 rebs is not dog ...not allstar material, but not too bad for a secondary player.

  13. #38
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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    Half the PTI crew just said that if we can't get Jermaine we should just offer PJ Brown, he would give us the stats and it would keep him away from LA.

    Not a bad backup plan...

    AHF

  14. #39
    Marcus Bryant
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    For a guy who gets as many touches as he did with the Clippers it most certainly is. Olowokandi is crap. All one has to do is see him play.

    2nd star? Right.

    43.3% career FG% for a center? No thanks.

    And the bas 's been injured on top of that.

  15. #40
    CrazyOne
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    I have to side with getting one of the big three... the planets and stars will never be better aligned than this, if we can't pry somebody loose from the frozen Northeast now, they're either braindead or not worth it. I would hate to see them settle for Kandi-man or other sub-par talent. If we can't get one of the big three, it might be worth the gamble to just get by with some small contracts and go for all the marbles in the next year... Tim and Garnett would be an awesome combination - if it could ever happen.

  16. #41
    spurster
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    Here are some stats for the bigmen free agents:

    _____ Born __ Efficiency/Game __ Minutes/Game
    Brand 1979 14.69 38.0
    Brown 1969 18.06 33.4
    Clark 1975 11.15 22.3
    Kandi 1975 14.69 38.0
    BMiller 1976 18.33 31.1
    JO'Neal 1978 23.74 37.2
    Rasho 1976 14.79 30.4

    Based on these number, I would rank Brad Miller and Keon Clark ahead of Kandi. Clark's eff/game is low, but he has eff/min of 0.5, while Kandi's is less than 0.4. P.J. Brown will be 34 this year, so I can't rank him higher than Kandi.

  17. #42
    Jimcs50
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    KG would never share the spotlight with Tim, he does not even like Tim.

  18. #43
    Ghost Writer
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    It won't be the Spurs' call whether they settle for Olowokandi or not. Despite having the world to offer the superstar free agents, they can't force anyone to sign on the dotted line.

    Cap space guantees the ability to sign a free agent. It does not guarantee the free agent of your choosing.



  19. #44
    scott
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    Cap space guantees the ability to sign a free agent. It does not guarantee the free agent of your choosing.
    The most important nugget of truth for everyone to remember. Capspace can be a blessing and a burden.

    Because of Pop's master plan, the Spurs are now in the position of upsetting quite a few fans when no superstar FAs are willing to sign on the dotted line.

    The Risk-Reward relationship is most certainly inherent within the Holting Pattern. We will know soon whether or not we hit it big or we struck out.

    Maybe it's time for some people to start thinking of a Kandi-Maggette offseason as less of a strike-out and more of a base-hit. It may not be the homerun we were hoping for, but we are still in play.

  20. #45
    Ghost Writer
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    "The Risk-Reward relationship is most certainly inherent within the Holting Pattern. We will know soon whether or not we hit it big or we struck out." — scott
    Thatta boy, scott.

    Winning an unexpected championship during the last season of the Holt-ing Pattern also lessens the urgency to get a superstar. The front office may feel like simply re-signing the le team's nucleus and signing a capable replacement for Robinson is all the team needs. Certainly, the simpleton fans will buy that company line if it comes to that.



  21. #46
    Marcus Bryant
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    Cap space can also be used in trades. Given that the cost of cap flexibility this summer was Derek Anderson, an injured Lamond Murray, and Chris Mihm I think some of you need to ease up on the hyperbole.

  22. #47
    Ghost Writer
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    Speaking of hyperbole, what team out there is willing to trade a superstar big man to the NBA champions for cap space?








    Question.




  23. #48
    Marcus Bryant
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    Signing Olowokandi would be akin to a self-inflicted gunshot however.

  24. #49
    Marcus Bryant
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    Indiana. Once JO'Neal informs the Pacers he is leaving.

  25. #50
    Marcus Bryant
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    This is exactly what I ing hate. You forever about the Spurs not being able to sign a star free agent. Not being able to make the big splash in free agency. And when they are in a position to do so you start to about what happens if they aren't able to. Give it a rest already and enjoy the f-ing summer.

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