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    Developers often work on projects that aren't certain of ever moving beyond the design phase.
    Too bad these are.

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    Actually its quite typical of entrepreneurs and investors to just throw their bs grand ideas out there to see what kind of read they can get.
    Yeah

    Here is a problem for you.... how come military drive ends at Potranco but then restarts back up at Richland Hills?
    Why does New Braunfels end at Military?

    Why are you short?

    Because somebody forgot that right in the middle of all that, a man owns the land and is not giving it up, therefore that part of the project is not growing due to poor planning by city leaders and entrepreneurs/investors.
    It wasn't bad planning, just a land owner not willing to give up his land.

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    This project is so far from reality it's not even funny.

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    Maybe I don't get something. Writer, do you actually belive that this is a project that is going to be BUILT? Do you not understand that this is only a "vision" as Bailey says in his interview?

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    Too bad these are.
    You hope.

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    If they can't get a team to relocate to LA, they have to turn to expansion.
    One of: Jacksonville or New Orleans will be in LA. With both of those teams struggling, it makes no sense to expand.

    Anyway, with the 15 year plan for HH, Tom Benson will be long dead before there is a NFL quality stadium there. The video said that the last things in place will be the stadiums.

    If you want the Austin folks to come down for NFL games (and you'll need them), the VERY ABSOLUTE furthest south you should build would the the old Longhorn quarry site that was considered by the Spurs at one point. That's at like Thousand Oaks and IH 35, just outside of loop 410. Realisticly, you want to build outside of 1604 to cut about an hour, round trip, off of their drive.

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    Yep. And believe it will.

    And from the fact that the Daniel Bailey said most of this will get built even without any kind public funding.

    The condos, hotel resorts, retail, entertainment, golf resort, etc is what HollyHills is going to build. With or without stadiums.

    But they are there to entice owners and the leagues to come to San Antonio.

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    This project is so far from reality it's not even funny.
    It is?

    Is that why the CEO said they would start construction on phase one within 18-24 months on the Chris Duel show?

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    Maybe I don't get something. Writer, do you actually belive that this is a project that is going to be BUILT? Do you not understand that this is only a "vision" as Bailey says in his interview?
    A vision? Yes, a grand one. A vision Bailey says will get built even without any kind of public funding.

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    If it's so great why give the public any stake in it at all?

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    One of: Jacksonville or New Orleans will be in LA. With both of those teams struggling, it makes no sense to expand.
    Jacksonville resolved all issues with the team. No moving for them.

    The NFL can't make Benson move his team to LA, which he has said repeatedly he won't.

    Anyway, with the 15 year plan for HH, Tom Benson will be long dead before there is a NFL quality stadium there. The video said that the last things in place will be the stadiums.
    15 years for a complete build out. That includes condos, housing, etc.

    If you want the Austin folks to come down for NFL games (and you'll need them)
    Not really, but keep telling yourself that.

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    If it's so great why give the public any stake in it at all?
    Did the public get a stake in La Cantera? How about the Rim or City Base Landing?

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    I see something happening but in a different area, sorry eastsiders.

    When the city leaders sit down and really decide to go forward with this project, I am quite sure there are more appealing landscapes to accomplish a sports complex.

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    Did the public get a stake in La Cantera? How about the Rim or City Base Landing?
    Strip malls? Now we're talking about strip malls.

    How does a strip mall compare to a nascar track, a professional baseball stadium and a football stadium?

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    Per Connolly on KENS there would be public financing involved.

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    Per Connolly on KENS there would be public financing involved.
    For the stadiums only but that also plans are that the stadiums won't need to be paid for by a majority of public funds.

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    Right. So some "public" money is needed. We'll see what they consider to be "private" funds.

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    I see something happening but in a different area, sorry eastsiders.

    When the city leaders sit down and really decide to go forward with this project, I am quite sure there are more appealing landscapes to accomplish a sports complex.
    Yeah, where there aren't black people, right?

    Damn, I bet you cried your ass off when they tore down midget mansion?

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    We'll see what they consider to be "private" funds.
    The money investors put into it.

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    Strip malls? Now we're talking about strip malls.

    How does a strip mall compare to a nascar track, a professional baseball stadium and a football stadium?
    I'm talking about what is being built.

    Hotels, golf resort, condos, retail, housing, etc.

    All being built privately by HollyHills.

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    It has nothing to do with race.

    The infracture is not there. Updated highway system, restaurants, housing, amenities, etc. etc.

    Dude, those people on Houston St. don't want a Sports complex in their neighborhood.

    Reason will tell you that the best place for it is right where Exstatic stated.

    Why do you think that land is still sitting there?

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    The infracture is not there. Updated highway system, restaurants, housing, amenities, etc. etc.
    That is all in the damn project.

    Retail, housing,

    Dude, those people on Houston St. don't want a Sports complex in their neighborhood.
    Really? You talk to them? , many probably don't. But the people next to the airport don't want the airport there.

    Reason will tell you that the best place for it is right where Exstatic stated.
    Yeah, not where the SBC Center is, you know, so you could have a complete sports entertainment district. Where one can live, work, shop, eat and watch a game?

    Why do you think that land is still sitting there?
    Which land? The SBC Center land or the Quarry off 35 land?

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    The money investors put into it.
    So then funds raised by a revenue bond issued by a local government would be "public", no?

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    If you want the Austin folks to come down for NFL games (and you'll need them), the VERY ABSOLUTE furthest south you should build would the the old Longhorn quarry site that was considered by the Spurs at one point. That's at like Thousand Oaks and IH 35, just outside of loop 410. Realisticly, you want to build outside of 1604 to cut about an hour, round trip, off of their drive.
    I'm confused.

    Austinites will go to the SBC Center (or whatever the they're gonna call it) for Spurs games but they won't go further south than Thousand Oaks for an NFL game???


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    So then funds raised by a revenue bond issued by a local government would be "public", no?
    What would that bond money pay for?

    If its the stadiums (which some will have to be paid for via public money) yes, the stadium will be public.

    HollyHills has stated many times that they will build everything sans the stadiums purely through the private sector.

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