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Last I checked people within the government also had the right to use the 1st amendment, even those affiliated with this administration.
blatant lies are not protected
Last I checked people within the government also had the right to use the 1st amendment, even those affiliated with this administration.
Last I checked people within the government also had the right to use the 1st amendment, even those affiliated with this administration.
blatant lies are not protected
Unfortunately, those affiliated with the administration don't share your point of view.Last I checked people within the government also had the right to use the 1st amendment
Like attributing a quote from a father of worldwide democracy to one of the most oppressive people in the history of mankind? Doesn't make it a lie just because I said it was, does it?blatant lies are not protected
I feel that my right to express my view has been infringed because you just called me/my political party affiliation/my ideology a name.
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Not The Red X!!!!
"Americans seem to think that there are no repercussions for their actions. That was never part of the deal."
Exactly. All freedom, no responsibility, from top to bottom. At the political level, it was the Repubs with Bush/A er, then Gingrich, then Starr, the frivolous impeachment, the rise of Delay and his total corruption and smash-mouth threats to even his own party, the out-of-control, politicized witch-hunts of the Clintons, then dubya/ head/rove in 2000 and since, against the 24x7 chorus of anger and hate of conservative talk radio, that that have taken the iniatiative to de-civilize political speech and actions, non-stop anger and denigration. Even the temporary inter/national solidarity after 9/11 was destroyed by the Repugs starting the Repug war in Iraq, the REAL reasons are still unknown, while all the false ones are extremely well known.
One of the observations after the 2000 elections: The Repubs/conservatives won and they were STILL pissed off as . The negative tone of the Repug campaigning was not just to rouse the ignorant rabble to vote Repug, it is a permanent tone of the Repug party and conservatives, even after 10 years running Congress, and 5 years of running the WH.
The reason head is waving off attacks on the run up to the is that is absolutely doens't want anybody to go there. He refuses to address the issues raised, and rather trashes issues and the issue-raisers as illegitmate. He KNOWS the deceitful WHIQ and associated henchmen are vulnerable, and he knows the useless, murderous war is now as unpopular domestically as it always was internationally. He's up to his armpits in a self-made swamp and no way to escape.
It's too bad the Gestapo is going to round up all the people in this thread and strip them of their first amendment rights.
you never know
I do, if they don't take away the second amendment rights first.
HAHAHAHA!
Finally...some humor...
Sheesh, calm down peeps. Our President is a liar and a coward. What has really changed? Nothing. Except the people that didnt like Clinton like Bush and vice versa.
Big whoop. The idea of actually pulling out of Iraq is preposterous. Again, I am into simplifying things.
Your kid breaks the Kool Aid jar on the floor. Halfway thru cleaning up his mess, he quits on the account that no matter how hard he tried, he could never get all the KoolAid.
Your kid breaks the KoolAid Jar, and worman-like keeps scrubbing the floor on the hope that he may clean it all up.
I know...too simple. But its true. Regardless of your position pre or post war, the KoolAid needs to be cleaned. Leaving Iraq now would be international suicide! Sooooo, big talking Cowboy Americans are willing to start , but not finish . People have been bounced (multiple times) off of bar room floors for starting what they cant finish.
My point is...Iraq MUST be successful. Unless of course you want to hear a month after our exit about the mass genocide and general warfare breaking out alllllll over the newly divided Iraqi geography.
Seriously, to do otherwise is JUST AS BAD as lying to go there. I dont say this often (never actually), but it is one time it is true....2 wrongs do not make a right. In this case, it doesnt even make you even.
Our President ed up. He aint the first and he aint the last.
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Moreover, its all well and nice to be here, on this forum arguing with fellow Americans about the merits.
But the moment you leave this country, you are ONLY an American. Not a Repug-lican or a Deeem-o-crack, just American. You are judged by which the world perceives you. Like that or not, its true.
In this sense the administration is somewhat in a bind. We can't just pull out of Iraq for the reasons you mentioned. At the same time, we can't increase the amount of resources we are sending to Iraq, to try and finish the job, due to waning public support for the war.
What do you know? Have you ever been to war? If not, STFU college boy. with all your fancy book-learning and theories of evolution. Hogwash.
Hmm...now that I can agree with. To be honest, and this sounds hokey, I fear for the innocents in Iraq. The people who just want to get by, have no ultra-political views or religious hatreds.
Those are the people that will be sent to the slaughter if we leave now.
And that falls directly on America's hands if it goes down.
My vote, flood the area with any and all available troops and get the damn situation under control. Hole up for another year or 2 and split.
Probably too simplistic. Such is the reason I am an armchair quarterback with a less-than-killer rig.
Have I ever been to war! Have I ever been to war!
I play Call of Duty 2 all the time. You don't know what it's like out there fighting for your country. It has changed me in a way I can never recover from.
I think Morons who pontificate that Bush has lied while trying to come across as non partisan are just a bunch of fakes. Has bush been indicted for war? No! Did the democrats have the same info to go into war as bUsh? YEs, and they all had the same chance of going to the CIA to get more info on the intel. So unless there are credible evidence that bush lied or manipulated info, you're just a bunch of hot air. Faulty evidence in hindsight does not indicate lying. If there's anyone to hate it's yourselves for aligning with the war and your democrat party who sold out their principles so they could count on your defense vote.
I...am...not...a....Democrat.
Period.
Its called objectivity. Something you lack.
Hey Boutons...
What Dark Reign Said.
You numbskull, bush-wacked, neo-con idiot!!
Bush and Cheney wanted this war and you know, the American people know it, the UN knows it. Geez louise!!, are you really that stupid?
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