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You really have that "smear" thing working for you. Good work, Cheney Jr.
Although I don't think I agree with gtown entirely that opposition to the war is the root cause of our declining power, I do think it's a real problem that America is losing the power of the threat of force as a deterrent.
I trust that you a thoughtful liberal, unlike your buddy OG, who thinks that leftists who murder people are preferrable to conservatives who post on message boards. And so I hope you understand that deterrence has created a great deal of stability in the industrialized world, and that if Japan and South Korea and Australia think they are on their own against emerging threats like China, we could end up with multilateral arms escalation, and increasing instability in the region.
So when our allies start saying things like this, alarm bells should be going off.
You really have that "smear" thing working for you. Good work, Cheney Jr.
You're the type to whom Cheney compares Democrats when he's trying to smear them.
Very vice-presidential thing to do. That's a twisted admin you ballwash
Your point? Just because I think you're the kind of fringe radical that makes Americans so scared of the Democrats that they put up with Republican BS doesn't mean I think Cheney is awesome.
Here's a pic you'll enjoy. Get to washing
The only threat China poses to USA is nuclear threat.
The US would lose a conventional ground war in China, and China would lose one in the USA, if the Chinese even have the logistics to land and support their Army on the US West Coast against US defenses. Either country could nuke the other's cities, M.A.D, then what? What does that gain for either one?
China's conventional forces are primarily to be used against the Chinese themselves, to keep the current power structure in place. And perhaps to go after Taiwan. China is not facing any invasive threats from nearby countries, and their conventional army would be useless a nuclear attack. The only real threat to the current Chinese power structure is from the Chinese themselves.
VN, Afghanistan (Taliban still running around, public security weak or non-existent), and the Repub war in Iraq prove that an invading, vastly superior, World Champions power (US) cannot win ALONE against an insurgency in a foreign country.
(Richard Holbrooke said this week that to match, pro rata, the number of foreign troops it took to pacify the Balkans, the Americans would have had to put 600K military into Iraq, vs the less than the disastrously low 150K now. And remember, the US didn't pacify and occupy the Balkans by themselves)
The war-mongering, murderous right-wing is pissed that any US citizen, which is now well over 50% polled, is dissenting against the Repug disaster in Iraq, so they they spew continuous slime on dissenters, blaming them for the disaster, when the Repug Iraq disaster is EXCLUSIVELY the SOLE responsibility of the Repug liars who started and then mis-managed that REPUG war. It is NOT an American war.
What the Repug war in Iraq has shown is that the US, acting ALONE (UK is making a marginal contribution), does not have the military strength, eg 150K troops max, to beat an insurgency in a foreign country. Thanks to the Repugs and their Iraq war, this fact is proven irrefubably before the entire world, whereas without the Iraq war, that fact would have remained undemonstrated.
I say let the right wing stew in their own bloody piss. They will be punished by the US voters in the next few years for the Repug Iraq disaster.
Minus the partisan rancor, this is my concern as well.What the Repug war in Iraq has shown is that the US, acting ALONE (UK is making a marginal contribution), does not have the military strength, eg 150K troops max, to beat an insurgency in a foreign country. Thanks to the Repugs and their Iraq war, this fact is proven irrefubably before the entire world, whereas without the Iraq war, that fact would have remained undemonstrated.
We need to discontinue buying "Made in China" and start buying "Made in Mexico" and shut the s up!
BTW. Send back Yao Ming!He's made in China and he can't make it through 4 quarters.
But Yao is only needed for three quarters; the fourth belongs to McGrady.
Chinese product: radio-controlled 4-wheeler
Mexican equivalent product: wooden wagon pulled by a mule
Maybe we're not there yet.
The asian nations don't see us losing the war militarily, they see us losing it in the pr department. THat's why the Tokyo governor made the statement of how america would lose to china because they are too civic when it comes to casualties. He did not list military accomplishments as the reason. none of the asian nations doubt we could win militarily against china. The point of the article was that we cannot win in our own minds because we are weak. You should distinguish the difference. According to Boutons, we lost the iraq war with the first casualty. And that was not our own at that. It was probably an innocent bystander. According to Boutons and many leftist criteria for strategic victory, we lost every battle and war xcept for the invasion of Grenada. HEck, we didn't finish doing our job in bosnia for that matter, theres still turmoil.
not even worth a real response
Nowhere in that entire article does it mention nor imply there would be a Chinese invasion of America. Its about the scenario that would ensue if China decided to "expand" its borders in which case the US forces would be forced to invade mainland China. Read this
Where do you suppose he meant the U.S. military would be withdrawing from?? The US??The governor said the U.S. military could not counter a wave of millions of Chinese soldiers prepared to die in any onslaught against U.S. forces. After 2,000 casualties, he said, the U.S. military would be forced to withdraw.
I should of been specific, american instalations and bases. But anyway. This is a superpower issue, developing nations need not to inquire.not even worth a real response
Nowhere in that entire article does it mention nor imply there would be a Chinese invasion of America. Its about the scenario that would ensue if China decided to "expand" its borders in which case the US forces would be forced to invade mainland China. Read this
Where do you suppose he meant the U.S. military would be withdrawing from?? The US??
*BINGO* there's the dumbass in you I was refering to
ManloveMania, what did you call bingo;the fact that i said i should of been specific or the the fact that argentina is a developing 3rd world nation?
The fact that you think two super powers going to war is none of my business!
Aren't you Mexican?
^Mexican american, but not a mexican national. Don't you know that being american has nothing to do with race?
When was the last time China attacked anyone? The U.S. and China have fought two pseudo-wars in Vietnam and Korea and so far the U.S. is 0-1-1 despite far superior firepower. Without a draft, it would be impossible for the U.S. to contain Chinese conventional forces, but especially if they are using technological warfare and guerilla tactics.
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