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Look at the bright side:
preseason is almost over!
bwahahahahahahaha!
primo and luka will just be held back until 2024!
If we're comparing other 18 year olds I agree but I don't know man theres always someone that defeats the odds of coming in really young and being able to contribute. I haven't seen a single thing that tells me he's not ready physically or mentally based of what i've seen with my eyes. Any game i've watched so far with him I haven't seen him nervous and he's got to any spot he wants. Yeah compe ion hasn't been great but he's passed the eye test IMO. He's looked better than any other Spurs prospect in years besides Derrick who was 5 years older than him his rookie year. His feel of the game is unreal at this age.
Look at the bright side:
preseason is almost over!
bwahahahahahahaha!
primo and luka will just be held back until 2024!
Kobe played in the NBA at 18 years of age and he turned out allright.
How often is he going to bench Forbes by staring him in the second half?
Been about 30 or so 18 year olds in the past and most have done quite well.
About 20 more this past year or two.
I don't know how to clean up the whole list, maybe one of you tech superiors can.
list of youngest players in NBA history - Bing
Partial list:
Andrew Bynum
Jermaine O'Neal
Kobe Bryant
Darko Miličić
Bill Willoughby
Tracy McGrady
Andris Biedriņš
C. J. Miles
Amir Johnson
Darryl Dawkins
Jonathan Bender
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Eddy Curry
Dwight Howard
Now as to whether Primo is ready or not, that would take some insider Spurs info IMO.
'Tis true that switching from 30 games a year to 82 is huge.
I can see both sides of the coin. If he is not going to be playing, get reps at Austin.
OTOH since he will be a part of the Spurs future barring Grandpas continuing control freak / senility why not start off with the A team.
, he can take their reps. The only one out of the group you mentioned who really wants those reps is Bryn and there is no point in giving them to him.
I saw the same lack of aggression from the guys as the past two years and it was booooring. Better be pre-season rust.
Has Derrick White every not started a game 1 for 5 or 2 for 7
On the one hand its the preseason on the other hand I cannot remotely tell what type of team we are even trying to be on the floor right now
Another preseason of "pop is being a mad scientist and trying all this new stuff in the pre-season" only to trot out typical pop lineups in the regular season and then you say what was the point of a 4 guard lineup against the jazz and letting primo run the show cause we won't ever run that lineup in the regular season and primo is going to be on the first ting smoking to austin so why even get our hopes up
i think we need to realize that Derrick White played a of a game against Denver in game 3 of the playoffs that one time but we cant keep thinking he's about to turn the corner and be a superstar. frankly he hasnt been efficient or productive enough to justify being the centerpiece. bubble white was good because he was also launching threesHas Derrick White every not started a game 1 for 5 or 2 for 7
On the one hand its the preseason on the other hand I cannot remotely tell what type of team we are even trying to be on the floor right now
Another preseason of "pop is being a mad scientist and trying all this new stuff in the pre-season" only to trot out typical pop lineups in the regular season and then you say what was the point of a 4 guard lineup against the jazz and letting primo run the show cause we won't ever run that lineup in the regular season and primo is going to be on the first ting smoking to austin so why even get our hopes up
The bubble as a whole was the worst thing to happen to the Spurs since Kawhi leaving. Had that not happened, the whole team would probably look different right now.
Probably so. But it may have been that they learned the wrong lessons from the Bubble.
probably asking a lot, but can you elaborate on this point a bit? in what way do you think the team would look different?
I think without it, the Spurs don't go for the ultra-small, structure-light offense. That means they may not continue their focus on guards in the draft and don't continue to feature non-shooting perimeter players because they don't feel like it's okay to add shooting smalls to them. Johnson probably isn't a starter without the bubble, meaning he could be the good bench player he probably really is right now and the team would've prioritized more size in the front court during the off-season. White likely doesn't get his contract without the bubble, which means at least that the Spurs would've gone into this past summer with quite a bit more cap flexibility.
Heck, maybe without the bubble, Pop puts the Spurs into a full rebuild because he doesn't have the same hope that Murray, White and Johnson would develop enough to make up for Aldridge's decline. There are so many different things that would've been different had Pop not seen eight games that gave him the impression that he had basically a young playoff core under this rotting vets.
i dont know. i was kind of hoping the bubble would have motivated pop to rebuild. move LMA/Derozan earlier. go with the youth movement even earlier, let them sink or swim and give us a better idea of who should be part of the team going forward and who shouldn't. but he instead kept trying to inch into the playoffs with derozan and wasted some time to evaluate and develop others
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Lonnie was a turnstile on defense. The Pistons attacked him on almost every possession in the second half. C+?? He was terrible.
Also, I only hope they’re playing Aminu to show the league that a trade involving him won’t be for a corpse.
Truth is that they have too many players that, although lower-tier, could be trade bait in a multi-player swap.
I’ll give Pop a bit of a pass since this is preseason, but yeah, sh!tty coaching last night.
"His preternatural awareness on both ends is palpable."
C'mon man, no one has time for that.
I don’t see Luka going to the G-League this season, it would be such a step backwards. It’s either he’s on the NBA team, either he’s gone.I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes but pop is pulling a larry brown/darko milocic with luka (of course, it turns out that darko was quite a headache off the court). Basically, I have no idea what Luka is like regarding his coachability and his work ethic but if this is just Pop being stubborn, I'm not happy with that. Every time I see Luka, I see samples of a nice skill set. So why he's being given garbage minutes in pre-season is beyond me. And I agree in regards to Primo. One can only hope these two are going to get some more significant minutes in some of the preseason games. I guess if I really want to look on the bright side, our G-League team would be pretty damn good if Primo and Luka headed it.
No. LMA and DMDR weren't in the same camp. The Spurs had pretty clearly (in retrospect) moved on from Aldridge by the time of the bubble, but DeRozan was the best player for the Spurs during that stretch. Pop wasn't going to look at that and think they should trade him. He was going to look at it and think "DeRozan and these young guys can work if I play ultra-small and remove most of the structure of the offense", which is what he did. Remember, the Spurs played well during the bubble, so Pop was going to keep that going and would not have gotten the lesson to dramatically alter the bubble lineup.
Ultimately, the bubble made the Spurs believe too much in the youth that they already had versus the youth they'd need to get in order to make a rebuild work. That's why they held onto their vets, yes. But it's also why they did things like extend White, start Johnson and ultimately not be aggressive enough adding young talent during the 2020 draft. Letting guys "sink or swim" was never going to be the plan, just like it still isn't the plan now. That's why even though Pop has let the vets go he holds to a strict hierarchy system he's always done rather than having a more fluid rotation that a rebuilding team should have, dispersing his more-defined players to create spots for his newer guys to get good minutes. The reason why the Spurs are still trying to figure out who should be part of the team going forward is because Pop still operates like the team can't afford to let guys come in and learn on the job. His method of using minutes as a disciplinary tool in his coaching doesn't work as well when everyone is roughly at the same level. You can see it in how a guy like Vassell comes in pressing all the time.
This is what will happen. he'll be sent to the G-League. After a couple or few 25/30 point games, he'll be called up to the big club.......only to be benched for the entirety of games.
Except that Pop didn't. In games LMA started to begin the season the Spurs were 8-3 and Popped bought into the b.s. that LMA was an integral part of that record. Thus as he came and went off the IR list, when coming back he would resume his 25 minutes per game and often take either the most, 2nd or at worst 3 most shot attempts. The slow motion black hole post up 1990s midrange offense continued.
LaMarcus Aldridge 2020-21 Game Log | Basketball-Reference.com
So much for letting the bubble flow continue and young ones develop.
We know how it ended. Popped kept this up until giving him to Brooklyn for nothing.
Arrested Development.
^ Now as to this year we can finally get our hopes up the Young Uns will be allowed to shine -or not, right?
Was looking that way 100% until Grandpa control freak brings back Pet Bryn. No doubt about it Bryn will help win about 8 games this year (no misprint, no crack smoked here) as he gets hot at a ratio of about 1 in 8 games. Granted the traffic cone defense continues and sure enough we saw that on full display vs the Pistons.
The 1 year contract? Good in the sense that he can be off the team if he sucks as expected. But then why the put that into the middle of a developing core?
So can we hope for fast pace and ball sharing as promised or, like LMA etc will Bryn Bryn be given all kinds of run by the Controller?
Popovich is the result you get when you have 70 year old men coaching and can't relate to 20 year old. He's from the era of players being submissive to coaches like robots. The sad thing is, they aren't gonna get rid of him. He's here until he decides to leave and that will probably be death..
Popovich is gonna destroy that kid's confidence to the point he's gonna be looking to the bench for the Ok to shoot.
Pop can't destroy that kid's confidence because he's got IT.
(And, spoiler alert, that's what Pop's looking for.)
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