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Exactly. I think it won’t be long until we get some DJ for MIP buzz.
he's like 2nd in the NBA in AST/TO ratio. How is his efficiency still on the same level?
Exactly. I think it won’t be long until we get some DJ for MIP buzz.
Maybe last year, but he’s overtaken those guys this year easy. He’s probably closer to whatever tier Jaylen Brown is in.
By far the best Spur at creating his own shot.
Painful to watch the Spurs in crunch time if Murray is not creating a shot.
He has made incredible strides in all facets of his game and i have been particularly impressed with his playmaking and finishing at the rim. This year has only confirmed what I’ve always thought about Murray that he is a star talent and he has been slowly putting it all together. Those pushing to trade him look pretty foolish now and his ceiling is still not fully realized. He’s entering the prime of his career and we have one of the most dynamic point guards in the league.
This is interesting to think about.
I have always thought of the prime of a player is when the apex of a player’s athletic gifts converges with the skill and mental understanding of the game before a significant physical decline.
DJ still seems to be improving and I would think his prime is about 3 years away and could last for 4-5 years. That’s scary…
The question wasn't whether DJ was tradable, or if we should trade him... but what would it take for you to trade him.
A lot of us were pretty steadfast this offseason saying that DJ > Simmons, but some on those board were on board to send DJ and every draft pick we have for the next zillion years away from Simmons. This is more a gut check on what we think DJ's value is. I agree he is the centerpiece of our team that we need to build around.
He needs more talent. The whole franchise player, centrepiece, captain etc etc debate is silly. Most teams now have 3-4 integral parts. DJ absolutely qualifies as one of those for the Spurs. White and Jak are our next best two players and are easily replaceable and should be upgraded.
I think most of this board wanted to do a DJ for simmons trade. there were a few against it but most would have been in favor of a dj for bs trade and would have been willing to give up picks.
This board isn’t very bright so….
I wouldn't say most of this board, although there are a huge amount of ing idiots who wanted Simmons. That thread still gets jerked out of the abyss for some reason.
Murray is better, but Anunoby would have more trade value due to scarcity/demand of position/role and malleability.Murray being comparable to OG Anunoby. Agree on Sabonis though.
Great line. Agree that they need to start marketing/campaigning for him like a star. Treating him like he's one of their superstars/stars of yesteryear isn't going to cut it. It's not only about him, but beginning to send a message to the rest of the league that things are changing here in that regard.
Something else to consider is Murray can help recruit. Every summer he is balling with the best of the best at training camps, tourneys, exhibition games etc. I’m not saying he has super start recruitment ability but top players with him heavy.
I read a pretty good article several years ago that the average player's physical peak is around age 27-28 but their actual peak in terms of production is around age 30, when their experience outweighs the dropoff in athleticism.
Of course this isn't true for every player, but it's the ballpark I use, and would make it quite plausible that Murray could still be 4-5 years from his NBA peak.
I wouldn't expect his rate of improvement over that timeframe to match recent years, but there is still room for him to grow.
Yes. Kyle Lowry took ages before becoming an All Star. Nash matured into a MVP late too. Murray and White (and IMo, Poeltl) are keepers. Murray can be an All Star soon, White should be All Defensive First team sometime soon while Poeltl can threaten All Defensive second team behind Gobert. Now it's for Johnson, Vassell and Primo to maximize their talents. Rest are expendable in my opinion.
At this point, unless we think his play is about to suddenly fall off a cliff, I wouldn't like the optics of trading Murray unless it was a deal we just couldn't pass up.
The little mystique and je ne sais quoi we still have left after four years of looking like garbage is that we are a family that doesn't just toss people aside.
Paraphrasing…
“A lot of guys around the league are watching Dejounte and are going to want to play with him…”
Can’t wait to see DJ with a better sidekick or two!!!
Those two together could have been something special.Better than kawhitter.
If Primo or Vassell can evolve into a goto type scorer, Murray's game might really skyrocket another level or two.
I mean... I asked ya'll way back when. And it appears that Spurs have decided it's a Jrue Holiday type deal?
For those want to know the rumour
https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...e-Asking-Price
Which is completely fair imo. Especially if you can get another team involved and send Collins somewhere else for more.
A Jrue Holiday like package would be tough to turn down if we are finally committed to a proper rebuild.
I’ve expressed before. I cooled off on DJ on that bench squabble with Pop. That to me was just not very Spursy. So I don’t mind if they cash in on Murray while his stock is high. Also I think he has reached his ceiling and has very little room left to improve. He avoids contacts attacking the rim, and settles for elbow shots. Basically to me he’s a borderline All-Star. I’d settle for Ivey and Collins by the end of the day, even Davis and Collins. I seriously think Davis has higher upsides and a more natural leader, just imo.
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