When will the next MAJOR impact player get drafted?

[MultiTroll]

People loves to put LeBron here. But has he won on his own? The players I named did. They each made their team mates better within, not by recruiting. I don’t care if he’s been in the Finals that many times.
Durant, the same. Could be one of the best scorer the game has known, but him joining alliances knocked him from my list.

What has Curry won on his own? Head to head Lebron obliterated him in 2015 and 16.
Durbettas alliance was with....Curry.

Changed the game thru his shooting, absolutely.
Nother thing im not hearing any of you Curry slurpers mention is....Defense.
MAJOR who only plays one side of the ball? Nope.

[John B]

I would put Isiah before I put LeBron. It’s subjective, but Isiah was the leader of the Bad Boys. You can never look back at the history of the NBA without mentioning the Bad Boys. They define pain, team mates, everybody got each other’s back. It shaped the NBA, particularly how flagrant fouls are called. Seriously, Isiah was a bad mother, it’s either you’re with him or not.

[HemisfairArena]

What has Curry won on his own? Head to head Lebron obliterated him in 2015 and 16.
Durbettas alliance was with....Curry.

Changed the game thru his shooting, absolutely.
Nother thing im not hearing any of you Curry slurpers mention is....Defense.
MAJOR who only plays one side of the ball? Nope.

What has Duncan won on his own?,,,,last time I checked he needed Kawhi in the last Finals to carry him and Manu and Parker in the previous ones,,,,,not to mention DRob. You have some kind of hatred for Curry and its laughable. Dude is an all time great.

[HemisfairArena]

What has Curry won on his own? Head to head Lebron obliterated him in 2015 and 16.
Durbettas alliance was with....Curry.

Changed the game thru his shooting, absolutely.
Nother thing im not hearing any of you Curry slurpers mention is....Defense.
MAJOR who only plays one side of the ball? Nope.

Curry went Back to back,,,,Duncan?,,,,not so much.

[talkspurs]

What has Curry won on his own? Head to head Lebron obliterated him in 2015 and 16.
Durbettas alliance was with....Curry.

Changed the game thru his shooting, absolutely.
Nother thing im not hearing any of you Curry slurpers mention is....Defense.
MAJOR who only plays one side of the ball? Nope.

If that is your logic then what has Lebron won by himself? He has not done anything without others on his team. You could make the same argument for shaqu and tim as well. Lebron has been overhyped his whole career.

[HemisfairArena]

OP now showing hes uneducated,,,,

[MultiTroll]

What has Duncan won on his own?,,,,last time I checked he needed Kawhi in the last Finals to carry him and Manu and Parker in the previous ones,,,,,not to mention DRob. You have some kind of hatred for Curry and its laughable. Dude is an all time great.

Curry went Back to back,,,,Duncan?,,,,not so much.

1/10 troll job

[HemisfairArena]

1/10 troll job

You look bad, son,,,,

[MultiTroll]

You look bad, son,,,,

I look marvelous.

[HemisfairArena]

I look marvelous.

If by marvelous, you mean retodded(Boston accent just to help ya out),,,,thats the best take youve had in the thread,,,,

[XDT76]

Off the top . . .

Tier 1: Jordan, James
Tier 2: Duncan, O'Neal, Johnson, Bird
Tier 3: Olajuwon, Durant, Curry, Bryant
Tier 4: Robinson, Malone, Garnett, Nowitzki, Wade, Paul, Antetokounmpo, Harden, Davis, Barkley
Tier 5: Jokic, S bag, Embiid, Doncic

Antetokounmpo, Jokic and Doncic could eventually rise to tier 3.




And about a 3 year stretch in the early aughts with no second star, yet still kept them a perennially elite team and won them probably the most impressive championship in history.

Your list is funny a prime tier 1 plus tier four player, lost to an aging tier 4 player. They also struggle to win an aging tier 2 player in 7 games and then get spank by that aging tier 2 player the following year.

[XDT76]

What has Duncan won on his own?,,,,last time I checked he needed Kawhi in the last Finals to carry him and Manu and Parker in the previous ones,,,,,not to mention DRob. You have some kind of hatred for Curry and its laughable. Dude is an all time great.

The last I checked, Timmy was the finals MVP 3 times meaning he carried the team 3 times to the ring. Curry has a grand total of 0, so he was never the best player in any championship team. According to your back to back talk D. Green is better than Tim and Steve Kerr is better than Jordan.

[HemisfairArena]

The last I checked, Timmy was the finals MVP 3 times meaning he carried the team 3 times to the ring. Curry has a grand total of 0, so he was never the best player in any championship team. According to your back to back talk D. Green is better than Tim and Steve Kerr is better than Jordan.

So MVP's determine greatness?,,,,,lmao. Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl and Super Bowl MVP in the NFL,,,you telling me he's a better QB than Dan Marino?

[HemisfairArena]

Nick Foles,,,,another Super Bowl winner and Super Bowl MVP,,,,you telling me hes better than Dan Marino?

[HemisfairArena]

Andre Iguodala,,,,NBA Champion on those Warrior teams and Finals MVP,,,,you telling hes better than Curry?,,,,lmao

[XDT76]

Andre Iguodala,,,,NBA Champion on those Warrior teams and Finals MVP,,,,you telling hes better than Curry?,,,,lmao

You are considered a great impact player when you are not even considered to be the most impactful on your on team?

[HemisfairArena]

You are considered a great impact player when you are not even considered to be the most impactful on your on team?

Are you really saying Curry isnt the most Impactful player on his team?,,,

[DeRozan m8]

Inarguably. The RINGZZZ argument is so lame. It's all about context. Jordan took over 1.5 years off to recharge mid prime and never had to go through a dynasty to get his. James had to face a certified one 3 times and another playing at a dynastic level 4 times.

The '11 Finals was obviously the biggest blow to his "legacy", but despite the NBA's/media's mythologizing, Jordan's wasn't spotless either (no one's was or will ever be).

Jordan's probably got James by a hair for peak value, but James blows him away for longevity.

Who gives a about longevity

Lebron has never been able do without a 1b and a lot of cherry picked pieces.

He also had to run away and reset 3 times...pathetic.

His game is also ugly and he holds the ball too long.

He has always been manufactured hype and a loser deep down

[rascal]

Who gives a about longevity

Lebron has never been able do without a 1b and a lot of cherry picked pieces.

He also had to run away and reset 3 times...pathetic.

His game is also ugly and he holds the ball too long.

He has always been manufactured hype and a loser deep down

Not easy to win on different teams. LeBron is great. he's the reason why his teams won because when he left those teams nose dived and didn't even come close . A good indicator is how a player when added to the team adds win totals to that team.

[exstatic]

The last I checked, Timmy was the finals MVP 3 times meaning he carried the team 3 times to the ring. Curry has a grand total of 0, so he was never the best player in any championship team. According to your back to back talk D. Green is better than Tim and Steve Kerr is better than Jordan.

Cornbread Maxwell won a FMVP for Boston. Was he ever, even for one second, a better player than Bird? You can put iggy’s FMVP in that same category.

[XDT76]

Cornbread Maxwell won a FMVP for Boston. Was he ever, even for one second, a better player than Bird? You can put iggy’s FMVP in that same category.

I did not say a single word that Iggy's better it's just that the league think he has a bigger impact and it makes it even worse when u are suppose to be the best player and a role player has a bigger impact especially when u are in your prime. Curry is a great scorer but he was always hidden in defense that's why Iggy got it over him. Other than a great 3 ptr the most memorable moments for Curry is that Green and Bogut regularly got him free with illegal screen and he lost 3 straight when up 3-1 as the best player resulting in the management bringing in another player to supplant him as the best player. Which great impact player experience it?

[MultiTroll]

Nick Foles,,,,another Super Bowl winner and Super Bowl MVP,,,,you telling me hes better than Dan Marino?

In each of their one Superbowls, yes.

[MultiTroll]

Cornbread Maxwell won a FMVP for Boston. Was he ever, even for one second, a better player than Bird? You can put iggy’s FMVP in that same category.

Yes.
Game 5 1981 NBA Finals.
Bird had a very off shooting game.
Corny was on fire. 10-13 in a low scoring game. 15 boards to boot, 7 offensive.

Iggys was undeserved. Lebron was the 2015 MVP in spades. The NBA loser policy that MVP has to come from the winning team is fertilizer.

[John B]

Yes.
Game 5 1981 NBA Finals.
Bird had a very off shooting game.
Corny was on fire. 10-13 in a low scoring game. 15 boards to boot, 7 offensive.

Iggys was undeserved. Lebron was the 2015 MVP in spades. The NBA loser policy that MVP has to come from the winning team is fertilizer.

Why put too much on the FMVP? Had Spurs won 2013, Danny Green would arguably be the FMVP. Does it mean he's any better than any of the Big 3 and nephew?

[couchman]

I love this convo! Great takes by a lot of you, even if I don't agree with all of them.

MAJOR Impact players in my lifetime:

Tier 1
Magic
Bird
Jordan
Timmy
LeBron
Kareem

Tier 2
Olajuwon
Kobe
Durant
Karl Malone
Steph Curry
Barkley

Tier 3
Giannis
The Admiral
Kevin Garnett
Isiah Thomas
Chris Paul
AI
Kawhi