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    Should have never traded him for Malik Hairston

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    I have to object, that was not merely an attempt, I accomplished actual condescension. But okay, your question is fair enough.
    Legit LOLed.


    Has it been reported what the buyout terms were? I wonder how much the Spurs got him to give back.

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    Legit LOLed.


    Has it been reported what the buyout terms were? I wonder how much the Spurs got him to give back.
    Yes it has. He gave back virtually nothing.

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    Legit LOLed.


    Has it been reported what the buyout terms were? I wonder how much the Spurs got him to give back.
    Dragic gave up $819,835 in his buyout with the Spurs.

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    i wonder if the spurs had any intention of keeping him for a playoff push.

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    i wonder if the spurs had any intention of keeping him for a playoff push.
    almost assuredly they did not

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    Dragic gave up $819,835 in his buyout with the Spurs.
    So less than the vet minimum? Or does that not factor pro ration based on where we are in the season?

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    So less than the vet minimum? Or does that not factor pro ration based on where we are in the season?
    He will be even with his pro-rata vet min deal in BK. Basically made his 19.5mm for the year or put otherwise he didn’t take sh!t off the table.

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    Yes you definitely have. In the deal where the Warriors “traded” Marquese Chriss to the Spurs, the Warriors included enough cash to pay what Chriss was owed, and a little more, 100k more, I think. The Warriors paid all of Chriss’s salary, and then some. The Warriors wanted Chriss off their books, and they paid the Spurs to do them that favor. I put “traded” in quotes because it was really a favor.

    So yes, you are certainly right, it’s possible for the seller to pay some (or even all) of the salary for the player they’re trading away.

    If the Spurs had kept digging, they could possibly have found a team to take Dragic, in a deal where the Spurs included, say, 4M in cash to pay him, and with the buying team to pay him the other 2M (or whatever the actual numbers are.) As far as paying him goes, that could have worked, and the Spurs could possibly have saved a couple M. Maybe, could be.

    But the complication is, there are salary cap considerations when contracts are traded, and there can sometimes be waiting periods, and all that stuff. If the Spurs had tried to trade the Dragic contract, they would have run into all the salary cap requirements (and so would the other team.)

    Paying a guy is simple enough, just give him the money. The salary cap area, tho, can be a total b@tch.
    This additional info certainly helps clear the questions in OP.
    Thank you.

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    ^ Had 6 million left on his expiring.
    And would count as almost $20 million for trade purposes JFC
    Sounds like highly confusing lawyer logic.
    That the players signed off on.

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    You'll really confuse folks like Multi with that simple, thorough, thoughtful answer. You need to speak in circular nonsensical riddles in order to fit in here. You must keep up Jeff. I would have expected more....or maybe it's less, from you.
    Sounds like Tricycle is hitting on you Jeff.
    If you two have a date, post it reality TV style.

    Lot of bunched up pantaloons on this thread.

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    Sounds like Tricycle is hitting on you Jeff.
    If you two have a date, post it reality TV style.

    Lot of bunched up pantaloons on this thread.
    one thing i think you missed is that the trade deadline is an actual deadline, which means the only options are buyout or pay salary were available within a few hours after the trade.

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    one thing i think you missed is that the trade deadline is an actual deadline, which means the only options are buyout or pay salary were available within a few hours after the trade.
    Solid contribution.
    Thank you.

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    This additional info certainly helps clear the questions in OP.
    Thank you.

    You are welcome, sir.

    Another thought occurred to me, the timing. This was all happening at the trade deadline. There was that big hubbub of trade activity (in which the Spurs were heavily involved, for once.)

    After all that, how much did teams have left to trade for the Dragic contract? Anything? Teams that wanted to make trades, and that had resources to trade, had probably already committed to other trades, and used those resources. So if/when the Spurs called other teams about Dragic, they might have found the cupboard was bare, as far as anything they could accept.

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    If the Spurs had tried to trade Dragic, it could only have been at the 6M figure, under his preexisting contract, since that was what the Spurs held. Hard to find takers, there, who would give the Spurs 6M in value back for him.
    It's worse. His salary cap figure at $19 million would have meant the Spurs would have to take a similar amount of salary back. So unless you're talking expirings, you're talking taking ~$20 million of salary for next year and perhaps beyond. And you're not getting $20 million worth of good players for the corpse of Dragic's career. You'd be getting $20 million of crap with maybe a second round pick thrown in as sweetener. No one was going to give a first for Dragic. So anyone ing about buying Dragic out has to explain why they'd want to pay $20 million for a late second round pick from a contender.

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    It's worse. His salary cap figure at $19 million would have meant the Spurs would have to take a similar amount of salary back. …

    Yes, when any team takes a contract they take the whole contract into their salary space for that season. This is a different thing from the amount the player is still owed. So you’re right about that. Trying to trade Dragic to another team, the Spurs would have been dealing with the entire 19M contract. I was just looking at what Dragic, himself, would be owed, because the salary cap stuff is goopy and nerdy, and I shy away from it. But, yeah.

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