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    I'm conflicted tbh. It's super hard to get kids to go to bed at 8pm in the summer when it's still daylight outside.

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    I'm conflicted tbh. It's super hard to get kids to go to bed at 8pm in the summer when it's still daylight outside.
    Let them be normal human beings and have them go to bed at 10-11pm. Heck the strictest my family ever got with me was "go to bed by midnight on weeknights and 2am on weekends" when I was a kid tbh.

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    Let them be normal human beings and have them go to bed at 10-11pm. Heck the strictest my family ever got with me was "go to bed by midnight on weeknights and 2am on weekends" when I was a kid tbh.
    And look how well you turned out.

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    yet here we are, years later, pondering the same question


    ‪Dan Diamond‬ ‪@ddiamond.bsky.social‬
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    Have spent time (my editors might say too much) talking to lawmakers about the daylight fight.Here are a few handy things to know.1) Trump can't unilaterally end daylight saving time (or make it year-round). Congress has the power here, and the issue has historically split along unusual lines.
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    2) Instead of partisan politics, those fights are driven more by regional factions. Often, coastal politicians have banded together to push for more Daylight Saving Time because of the local benefits of later sunsets — opposed by midwestern politicians worried about later sunrises.


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    3) When you ask, about two-thirds of Americans say they dislike the clock changes and want to end them.And of those Americans, about half say they want permanent Daylight Saving Time instead — basically, we’d “spring forward” one final time and just be stuck there.But …


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    4) We tried year-round Daylight Saving Time before, 50 years ago.And people hated it.There were reports of more car accidents, or kids waiting in dark for school buses. (I also think there was a bit of social contagion too.)Either way, Congress got the message and ended it 10 months later.


    Why people hated permanent daylight saving time when the U.S. last tried it
    In 1974, Americans thought they would be eliminating an inconvenience and saving energy. Then the change went into effect

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    from the OP, the bill apparently was not passed in the House

    What's next: Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-Fla.) will lead a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi calling for immediate House passage of his bill, Axios has learned.

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    stupid culture wars and bull like this, getting people stirred up over a more or less arbitrary change in clock setting

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    stupid culture wars and bull like this, getting people stirred up over a more or less arbitrary change in clock setting
    Actually something I care about myself tbh. I hate Standard time with a vengeance.

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    The only plausible argument I've seen is kids walking to school in the morning in the cold dark. I'm not sure that's enough of an argument though.

    I love daylight savings/ hate standard time myself too

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    Actually something I care about myself tbh. I hate Standard time with a vengeance.
    I'm agnostic, y'all please just make up your minds and no backs

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    Just pick one and go with it. If we don't like the time things start, change the start time -- not time itself.

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    stupid culture wars and bull like this, getting people stirred up over a more or less arbitrary change in clock setting
    I heartily agree, Winester.

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    I prefer later sunset in winter when the weather is nice
    I prefer earlier sunset in summer when it is infernally hot in Texas.
    The exact opposite of what we have now

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    The only plausible argument I've seen is kids walking to school in the morning in the cold dark. I'm not sure that's enough of an argument though.

    I love daylight savings/ hate standard time myself too
    I've always thought that particular argument was stupid. That's what buses and parents are for, and not everyone (actually more than half don't these days) have/has kids.

    The original argument about international times and flights being screwed up made sense back in the day, but now with advanced technology and global communications that isn't a problem.

    Actually something I care about myself tbh. I hate Standard time with a vengeance.
    Yeah, 5pm sunsets are godawful. There's no reason the sun should be getting up so darn early in the winter, either.

    "Standard time" just makes for more dog mornings and afternoons staring into the sun on the way to and from work as a commuter, too.

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    Just pick one and go with it. If we don't like the time things start, change the start time -- not time itself.
    Makes sense. Adjust scheduling instead of the clock.

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    I've always thought that particular argument was stupid. That's what buses and parents are for, and not everyone (actually more than half don't these days) have/has kids.

    The original argument about international times and flights being screwed up made sense back in the day, but now with advanced technology and global communications that isn't a problem.



    Yeah, 5pm sunsets are godawful. There's no reason the sun should be getting up so darn early in the winter, either.

    "Standard time" just makes for more dog mornings and afternoons staring into the sun on the way to and from work as a commuter, too.
    I like standard time better. I don't care if it gets dark an hour earlier. No need for it to stay light until 8:30 pm or 9:00 pm in the summer. Those in Texas should want less sunlight and heat after work in the summer.

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    Just pick one and go with it. If we don't like the time things start, change the start time -- not time itself.
    That's too easy

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